Ok, since you are obviously not as smart as you project, or just like doing the twist, I said the palestinians (obviously not every single one of them) are being led by terrorists. They seem to be going along with whatever bile comes forth from their leaders. Do I suggest killing them? No. What I do suggest is that you attack those coercing them. Bush has done that by removing SH.
You're misguided. The Palestinians have been fighting for a lot longer than Saddam has been around. Feel free to hold them responsible for their actions, but don't try and blame Iraq for what the Palestinians are doing.
Using your logic, that one country can coerce another to take action like the Palestinians are doing, a far better argument could be made that Israel is coercing the Palestinians. Does that mean we should attack Israel?
I don't care how you vote, but my point still stands. The world is not the wild west.
Iraq posed a definite threat because it was pursuing WMD and WMD programs. SH openly and repeatedly threatened the US and it's interests and attempted an assassination on a former president.
Show us the WMD and/or WMD programs. Show us where Iraq threatened the US. An attempted assassination of a former president? That doesn't lead to war. Ask John Hinkley Jr.
I linked to it because it confirms the link between Iraq and Palestinian terror groups.
Sorry NaplesX, but these links aren't useful. A lot of people send money to the families or suicide bombers and soldiers that die. It's because the Palestinians are poor and the suicide bomber is often one of if not the only 'bread winner' for the family.
This isn't the 'terror' we're discussing in this thread anyway. Are we going to bomb Ireland because they support reunification? Obviously not. Are we going to attach Chechnya because the news defines them with the word terrorist? No.
Sorry NaplesX, but these links aren't useful. A lot of people send money to the families or suicide bombers and soldiers that die. It's because the Palestinians are poor and the suicide bomber is often one of if not the only 'bread winner' for the family.
This isn't the 'terror' we're discussing in this thread anyway. Are we going to bomb Ireland because they support reunification? Obviously not. Are we going to attach Chechnya because the news defines them with the word terrorist? No.
Spin spin spin...
I am only responding to the ridiculous statement that SH did not support palestinian terrorists. You don't send millions of dollars to someone who you do not support.
Are you trying to imply that all that money did not encourage more bombings? Give us all a little break here.
Sorry NaplesX, but these links aren't useful. A lot of people send money to the families or suicide bombers and soldiers that die. It's because the Palestinians are poor and the suicide bomber is often one of if not the only 'bread winner' for the family.
This isn't the 'terror' we're discussing in this thread anyway. Are we going to bomb Ireland because they support reunification? Obviously not. Are we going to attach Chechnya because the news defines them with the word terrorist? No.
Terrorism is terrorism. When you target innocents just to make a point, that is terrorism.
You keep trying to equate terrorism with war. I think any reasoning person can tell the difference. What do YOU call what the Palestinian bombers are doing?
I know killing is a bad thing all around, I think most here would agree,. However, you seem to defending the right of SH and the palestinians to kill at their discretion.
Throughout this thread you have complained about and venomously criticized the BUSH doctrine, his alleged lies, countless mistakes (by your account), his world view and competence. What are your answers to the things that face this President? What is your plan to combat terror?
Terrorism is terrorism. When you target innocents just to make a point, that is terrorism.
You keep trying to equate terrorism with war. I think any reasoning person can tell the difference. What do YOU call what the Palestinian bombers are doing?
I know killing is a bad thing all around, I think most here would agree,. However, you seem to defending the right of SH and the palestinians to kill at their discretion.
Throughout this thread you have complained about and venomously criticized the BUSH doctrine, his alleged lies, countless mistakes (by your account), his world view and competence. What are your answers to the things that face this President? What is your plan to combat terror?
This still isn't the reason this war was sold on!
Reread the title to this thread. " No ties to Al- Qaeda "
Reread the title to this thread. " No ties to Al- Qaeda "
Hey, Mr. Deflecto, stay on the subject at hand. We were talking about saddam's tie to palestinian bombers.
You are so pathetic.
You were more than happy to throw your two cents in just a couple of replies ago, so don't pretend all of a sudden you want to stay strictly on subject. Nice failed attempt to once again marginalize me.
These are random links from a google search about Iraq money for palestinians. I scanned over each to make sure they mentioned the issue.
As you can see they come from all types of news organizations left, right, and middle.
Can I assume by your comments that you dismiss all of them?
This has been widely accepted as fact by the major news entities in this and other countries. I guess you know something special that everyone is missing?
The term is "suicide bombers." The homicide is implied in the word "bomber" and the addition of the word "suicide" identifies the type of bombing as one where the bomber deliberately killed himself in the process. "Homicide bomber" does not differentiate the bombing from any other bombing where an individual is killed.
Changing the term to "homicide bomber" is simply putting politics before factual description.
These are random links from a google search about Iraq money for palestinians. I scanned over each to make sure they mentioned the issue.
As you can see they come from all types of news organizations left, right, and middle.
Can I assume by your comments that you dismiss all of them?
This has been widely accepted as fact by the major news entities in this and other countries. I guess you know something special that everyone is missing?
Let's hear from some of those " major News entities "
These are random links from a google search about Iraq money for palestinians. I scanned over each to make sure they mentioned the issue.
Interesting. So rather than pulling from your body of knowledge or using the opportunity to learn something new, you simply picked random links that 'mentioned' a topic in order to win an online debate.
No wonder you never have any idea what you are talking about.
The term is "suicide bombers." The homicide is implied in the word "bomber" and the addition of the word "suicide" identifies the type of bombing as one where the bomber deliberately killed himself in the process. "Homicide bomber" does not differentiate the bombing from any other bombing where an individual is killed.
Changing the term to "homicide bomber" is simply putting politics before factual description.
I am sorry there is no intelligent form communication possible with you.
Interesting. So rather than pulling from your body of knowledge or using the opportunity to learn something new, you simply picked random links that 'mentioned' a topic in order to win an online debate.
No wonder you never have any idea what you are talking about.
I am sorry there is no intelligent form communication possible with you.
Comments
Originally posted by NaplesX
Ok, since you are obviously not as smart as you project, or just like doing the twist, I said the palestinians (obviously not every single one of them) are being led by terrorists. They seem to be going along with whatever bile comes forth from their leaders. Do I suggest killing them? No. What I do suggest is that you attack those coercing them. Bush has done that by removing SH.
You're misguided. The Palestinians have been fighting for a lot longer than Saddam has been around. Feel free to hold them responsible for their actions, but don't try and blame Iraq for what the Palestinians are doing.
Using your logic, that one country can coerce another to take action like the Palestinians are doing, a far better argument could be made that Israel is coercing the Palestinians. Does that mean we should attack Israel?
I don't care how you vote, but my point still stands. The world is not the wild west.
Originally posted by NaplesX
Iraq posed a definite threat because it was pursuing WMD and WMD programs. SH openly and repeatedly threatened the US and it's interests and attempted an assassination on a former president.
Show us the WMD and/or WMD programs. Show us where Iraq threatened the US. An attempted assassination of a former president? That doesn't lead to war. Ask John Hinkley Jr.
Originally posted by NaplesX
I linked to it because it confirms the link between Iraq and Palestinian terror groups.
Sorry NaplesX, but these links aren't useful. A lot of people send money to the families or suicide bombers and soldiers that die. It's because the Palestinians are poor and the suicide bomber is often one of if not the only 'bread winner' for the family.
This isn't the 'terror' we're discussing in this thread anyway. Are we going to bomb Ireland because they support reunification? Obviously not. Are we going to attach Chechnya because the news defines them with the word terrorist? No.
Originally posted by jimmac
Provide something a little better than you have. If they're so plentyful out there as you say it should be easy.
http://216.26.163.62/2003/me_iraq_04_15.html
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2003/s811058.htm
http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1187407.html
http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/3215/
http://virus.lucifer.com/virus/2526.html
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/...004766310.html
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...004765036.html
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inter...0.html?FACTNet
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2846365.stm
http://wordofmessiah.org/saddams_check.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1040527/posts
http://english.pravda.ru/world/2002/08/15/34593.html
http://www.likud.nl/extr231.html
http://www.idf.il/iraq/english/info13.stm
http://www.strategypage.com/onpoint/...s/20020403.asp
http://www.israelforum.com/dynamix/page.pl?sn=29
http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH0n2h0
http://www.fidim.org/irak.php?viewText=31
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...13/73250.shtml
http://www.factsofisrael.com/load.ph...es/000407.html
http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/bu/iraq/iraq_f_a.htm
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...30/73500.shtml
http://www.ikurd.info/news-20jun-p2.htm
http://www.nctimes.net/news/2003/20030331/61009.html
http://www.terrorismanswers.com/sponsors/iraq.html
http://www.photodude.com/weblog/2002...balances.shtml
All of these links talk of SH supporting terrorist homicide bombers.
Tell me when you have enough, I can easily get more, as you know. I assume you have google.
Originally posted by bunge
Sorry NaplesX, but these links aren't useful. A lot of people send money to the families or suicide bombers and soldiers that die. It's because the Palestinians are poor and the suicide bomber is often one of if not the only 'bread winner' for the family.
This isn't the 'terror' we're discussing in this thread anyway. Are we going to bomb Ireland because they support reunification? Obviously not. Are we going to attach Chechnya because the news defines them with the word terrorist? No.
Spin spin spin...
I am only responding to the ridiculous statement that SH did not support palestinian terrorists. You don't send millions of dollars to someone who you do not support.
Are you trying to imply that all that money did not encourage more bombings? Give us all a little break here.
Originally posted by bunge
Sorry NaplesX, but these links aren't useful. A lot of people send money to the families or suicide bombers and soldiers that die. It's because the Palestinians are poor and the suicide bomber is often one of if not the only 'bread winner' for the family.
This isn't the 'terror' we're discussing in this thread anyway. Are we going to bomb Ireland because they support reunification? Obviously not. Are we going to attach Chechnya because the news defines them with the word terrorist? No.
Terrorism is terrorism. When you target innocents just to make a point, that is terrorism.
You keep trying to equate terrorism with war. I think any reasoning person can tell the difference. What do YOU call what the Palestinian bombers are doing?
I know killing is a bad thing all around, I think most here would agree,. However, you seem to defending the right of SH and the palestinians to kill at their discretion.
Throughout this thread you have complained about and venomously criticized the BUSH doctrine, his alleged lies, countless mistakes (by your account), his world view and competence. What are your answers to the things that face this President? What is your plan to combat terror?
Originally posted by NaplesX
http://216.26.163.62/2003/me_iraq_04_15.html
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2003/s811058.htm
http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1187407.html
http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/3215/
http://virus.lucifer.com/virus/2526.html
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/...004766310.html
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...004765036.html
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/inter...0.html?FACTNet
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2846365.stm
http://wordofmessiah.org/saddams_check.htm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1040527/posts
http://english.pravda.ru/world/2002/08/15/34593.html
http://www.likud.nl/extr231.html
http://www.idf.il/iraq/english/info13.stm
http://www.strategypage.com/onpoint/...s/20020403.asp
http://www.israelforum.com/dynamix/page.pl?sn=29
http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH0n2h0
http://www.fidim.org/irak.php?viewText=31
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...13/73250.shtml
http://www.factsofisrael.com/load.ph...es/000407.html
http://www.intelligence.org.il/eng/bu/iraq/iraq_f_a.htm
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...30/73500.shtml
http://www.ikurd.info/news-20jun-p2.htm
http://www.nctimes.net/news/2003/20030331/61009.html
http://www.terrorismanswers.com/sponsors/iraq.html
http://www.photodude.com/weblog/2002...balances.shtml
All of these links talk of SH supporting terrorist homicide bombers.
Tell me when you have enough, I can easily get more, as you know. I assume you have google.
Where do these rags come from?
I like this part on the very first one......
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Originally posted by NaplesX
Terrorism is terrorism. When you target innocents just to make a point, that is terrorism.
You keep trying to equate terrorism with war. I think any reasoning person can tell the difference. What do YOU call what the Palestinian bombers are doing?
I know killing is a bad thing all around, I think most here would agree,. However, you seem to defending the right of SH and the palestinians to kill at their discretion.
Throughout this thread you have complained about and venomously criticized the BUSH doctrine, his alleged lies, countless mistakes (by your account), his world view and competence. What are your answers to the things that face this President? What is your plan to combat terror?
This still isn't the reason this war was sold on!
Reread the title to this thread. " No ties to Al- Qaeda "
Originally posted by jimmac
This still isn't the reason this war was sold on!
Reread the title to this thread. " No ties to Al- Qaeda "
Hey, Mr. Deflecto, stay on the subject at hand. We were talking about saddam's tie to palestinian bombers.
You are so pathetic.
You were more than happy to throw your two cents in just a couple of replies ago, so don't pretend all of a sudden you want to stay strictly on subject. Nice failed attempt to once again marginalize me.
Originally posted by NaplesX
Hey, Mr. Deflecto, stay on the subject at hand. We were talking about saddam's tie to palestinian bombers.
You are so pathetic.
Once again reread the title to this thread :
" No ties to Al- Qaeda "
Originally posted by jimmac
Where do these rags come from?
These are random links from a google search about Iraq money for palestinians. I scanned over each to make sure they mentioned the issue.
As you can see they come from all types of news organizations left, right, and middle.
Can I assume by your comments that you dismiss all of them?
This has been widely accepted as fact by the major news entities in this and other countries. I guess you know something special that everyone is missing?
Originally posted by NaplesX
homicide bombers.
The term is "suicide bombers." The homicide is implied in the word "bomber" and the addition of the word "suicide" identifies the type of bombing as one where the bomber deliberately killed himself in the process. "Homicide bomber" does not differentiate the bombing from any other bombing where an individual is killed.
Changing the term to "homicide bomber" is simply putting politics before factual description.
Originally posted by NaplesX
These are random links from a google search about Iraq money for palestinians. I scanned over each to make sure they mentioned the issue.
As you can see they come from all types of news organizations left, right, and middle.
Can I assume by your comments that you dismiss all of them?
This has been widely accepted as fact by the major news entities in this and other countries. I guess you know something special that everyone is missing?
Let's hear from some of those " major News entities "
Originally posted by NaplesX
These are random links from a google search about Iraq money for palestinians. I scanned over each to make sure they mentioned the issue.
Interesting. So rather than pulling from your body of knowledge or using the opportunity to learn something new, you simply picked random links that 'mentioned' a topic in order to win an online debate.
No wonder you never have any idea what you are talking about.
Originally posted by giant
The term is "suicide bombers." The homicide is implied in the word "bomber" and the addition of the word "suicide" identifies the type of bombing as one where the bomber deliberately killed himself in the process. "Homicide bomber" does not differentiate the bombing from any other bombing where an individual is killed.
Changing the term to "homicide bomber" is simply putting politics before factual description.
I am sorry there is no intelligent form communication possible with you.
Originally posted by NaplesX
I am sorry there is no intelligent form communication possible with you.
Were you standing in front of the mirror when you were saying that?
Originally posted by giant
Interesting. So rather than pulling from your body of knowledge or using the opportunity to learn something new, you simply picked random links that 'mentioned' a topic in order to win an online debate.
No wonder you never have any idea what you are talking about.
I am sorry there is no intelligent form communication possible with you.
Originally posted by NaplesX
I am sorry there is no intelligent form communication possible with you.
Once again......
Were you standing in front of the mirror when you were saying that?
Originally posted by NaplesX
Are you trying to imply that all that money did not encourage more bombings? Give us all a little break here.
Are you trying to imply that people are blowing themselves up so their families can get some money? That's just stupid.
Originally posted by bunge
Are you trying to imply that people are blowing themselves up so their families can get some money? That's just stupid.
Ha! Hehehehehhe!