Ridiculous music argument with a friend...
Dhuge67: Pepsi and Apple are giving away 100 million free songs
Dhuge67: legal downloads at iTunes.com
benzoXL: wow
Dhuge67: 1/3 win a code to redeem them under the cap, its cool
benzoXL: ill just wait til summer - download for freeeeeee
Dhuge67: they let you stream them...not physically download the file
benzoXL: i dont care - its not like im takin it anywhere, im not gonna have a car
Dhuge67: if you want to download the file to make it burnable or syncable to an iPod, it must be paid for
benzoXL: and besides, im gonna have a wireless connect too, so i can dl there
Dhuge67: eh, i dont know...i think its stupid and PSU misses the point... it just encourages illegal downloads... reinforces the idea that music is a commodity not something that should be paid for
benzoXL: no - cause im only gonna dl music for my dorm, and ill be fine with it. it gives incentive to buy a song, or buy the cd instead of buying the song
benzoXL: which in turn makes more money for big companies
Dhuge67: no, it instills the idea in people's minds that "listening to a song without paying for it is ok"
benzoXL: most of the cds i get are 20, 21 tracks
benzoXL: i never spend 20 bucks on a cd
benzoXL: thats overpaying in the long run
Dhuge67: full quality, fast downloads, reliable download, album art, profit to the artist, legal piece of mind, and you have full use rights
benzoXL: piece of mind can suck my balls
Dhuge67: reliable and quality AAC encoding is nice
benzoXL: im not having a psychological struggle here
benzoXL: ill stream, stay legal, and not care
Dhuge67: ok, I wont...I refuse to give up iPod portability and quality downloads and most people want iPods
benzoXL: but i dont have an ipod, i dont plan on buying one, and im not gonna have a car to use cds in frosh year, so why not stream?
Dhuge67: they already account for 60% of the revenue in mp3 players and 30% of the market, its sick
benzoXL: mp3 players are useless in my opinion, cause i dont use them to walk around with
benzoXL: i listen to music in my car
benzoXL: and i dont have a tape player to plug it into
Dhuge67: I dunno man, you may see in time that you will want one, especially when they become more affordable this summer when HP releases the HP iPod
benzoXL: and i dont want the extra hassle of having something loose in my car... i used to have an mp3 player and i hated it
Dhuge67: u could buy a 20 dollar fm transmitter
Dhuge67: I dont think youd hate the iPod, nobody does
bnzoXL: its an mp3 player
benzoXL: yes, come to grips with it, not everyone loves it, alot of people like it yes but not everyone
Dhuge67: the album is dead man
benzoXL: no its not
Dhuge67: It has been dying at least, hardly alive
benzoXL: without it, there would be none of this
benzoXL: ok, so thats why there are still multiplatinum artists
Dhuge67: in a couple years there probably wont be off the shelf CD's
Dhuge67: its an ancient technology
benzoXL: ill mark your words
Dhuge67: its not convenient anymore
benzoXL: ill hold you to this
Dhuge67: people want iPods, MP3's...I'm in good company with this vision
Dhuge67: legal downloads at iTunes.com
benzoXL: wow
Dhuge67: 1/3 win a code to redeem them under the cap, its cool
benzoXL: ill just wait til summer - download for freeeeeee
Dhuge67: they let you stream them...not physically download the file
benzoXL: i dont care - its not like im takin it anywhere, im not gonna have a car
Dhuge67: if you want to download the file to make it burnable or syncable to an iPod, it must be paid for
benzoXL: and besides, im gonna have a wireless connect too, so i can dl there
Dhuge67: eh, i dont know...i think its stupid and PSU misses the point... it just encourages illegal downloads... reinforces the idea that music is a commodity not something that should be paid for
benzoXL: no - cause im only gonna dl music for my dorm, and ill be fine with it. it gives incentive to buy a song, or buy the cd instead of buying the song
benzoXL: which in turn makes more money for big companies
Dhuge67: no, it instills the idea in people's minds that "listening to a song without paying for it is ok"
benzoXL: most of the cds i get are 20, 21 tracks
benzoXL: i never spend 20 bucks on a cd
benzoXL: thats overpaying in the long run
Dhuge67: full quality, fast downloads, reliable download, album art, profit to the artist, legal piece of mind, and you have full use rights
benzoXL: piece of mind can suck my balls
Dhuge67: reliable and quality AAC encoding is nice
benzoXL: im not having a psychological struggle here
benzoXL: ill stream, stay legal, and not care
Dhuge67: ok, I wont...I refuse to give up iPod portability and quality downloads and most people want iPods
benzoXL: but i dont have an ipod, i dont plan on buying one, and im not gonna have a car to use cds in frosh year, so why not stream?
Dhuge67: they already account for 60% of the revenue in mp3 players and 30% of the market, its sick
benzoXL: mp3 players are useless in my opinion, cause i dont use them to walk around with
benzoXL: i listen to music in my car
benzoXL: and i dont have a tape player to plug it into
Dhuge67: I dunno man, you may see in time that you will want one, especially when they become more affordable this summer when HP releases the HP iPod
benzoXL: and i dont want the extra hassle of having something loose in my car... i used to have an mp3 player and i hated it
Dhuge67: u could buy a 20 dollar fm transmitter
Dhuge67: I dont think youd hate the iPod, nobody does
bnzoXL: its an mp3 player
benzoXL: yes, come to grips with it, not everyone loves it, alot of people like it yes but not everyone
Dhuge67: the album is dead man
benzoXL: no its not
Dhuge67: It has been dying at least, hardly alive
benzoXL: without it, there would be none of this
benzoXL: ok, so thats why there are still multiplatinum artists
Dhuge67: in a couple years there probably wont be off the shelf CD's
Dhuge67: its an ancient technology
benzoXL: ill mark your words
Dhuge67: its not convenient anymore
benzoXL: ill hold you to this
Dhuge67: people want iPods, MP3's...I'm in good company with this vision
Comments
Dhuge67: DVD's are actually over the hill
Dhuge67: in a few more years there will be HD DVD's
Dhuge67: I say by 2010 CD's will be as scarce as 8tracks are today
benzoXL: to keep up with every technological advance made is madness
Dhuge67: the album as we know it is dead....everything is just progressing sooo fast to the Apple iTunes idea... its all about what people want, and why they want it...lets look at why this is happening...let me have the floor for a sec
Dhuge67: people are embracing the idea of the digital hub which Apple coined over 4 years ago (well ahead of everyone else but thats another story) and what has happened since
Dhuge67: You want your computer to be a hub, connecting your video, photos, music, and everything else you create....the computer houses the files....the computer provides more worth and value to these things by editing them, sharring them, and repackaging them...then there are devices that branch off of the hub and add even more value yet
benzoXL: its all in how you view it
Dhuge67: they enable portability, convenience
benzoXL: quality that a burnt cd lacks
benzoXL: ok, and thats why im telling you this
Dhuge67: my friend, where do you think a CD comes from?
Dhuge67: it is burnt, it is digital
benzoXL: much mor coimplex than what we do
Dhuge67: but see, not anymore
benzoXL: dont get condescending with me
Dhuge67: not since the AAC standard has come along...
I don't want to read your entire conversation...
what was ultimately decided? iTunes/Pepsi good or bad?
DVDs are not going to replace CDs for music.
edit:
"the album is dead"
"no it's not"
"yes it is"
no, the ALBUM is fine, compact discs as a means to play albums is dying
benzoXL: piece of mind can suck my balls
edit: or rather, it cuts to something that could very well have been 10-15 minutes later, still vaguely related, but more developed and all that.
Originally posted by Messiahtosh
Cute
You think so? I thought it was a little over the top... but I am glad you like it...
i dunno about all of you, but i think psu needs an xserve cluster
I love it when the record industry and/or Hollywood squawks about "declining music sales" and "lower box office takes" and so forth, as if they have no control or hand in it.
Then why don't you lunkheads stop scouting, signing and promoting such empty, derivative, intelligence-insulting shit...and just MAYBE those precious numbers will creep up a bit?
Nah, that makes too much sense...
Britney is simply this decade's Tiffany, but nobody seems to realize it.
Two big titties and a flat tummy not a quality musical artist make.