macminute has a post about the 970 at 2.5 coming friday
http://www.macminute.com/2004/02/13/powerpc
macminute never has rumors...i would say this nails it, but we shall see soon
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i especially like this line in the cnet article:
To make the new PowerPCs, IBM is combining layers of silicon on insulator (SOI) and strained silicon. Together, the two technologies allow manufacturers to improve energy efficiency or performance: They can either make processors that run as fast as current models but consume far less power; or they can produce chips that use the same amount of power but run at higher clock speeds
fast, hotter chips in the PM
slower, cooler chips in the PB??
macminute never has rumors...i would say this nails it, but we shall see soon
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i especially like this line in the cnet article:
To make the new PowerPCs, IBM is combining layers of silicon on insulator (SOI) and strained silicon. Together, the two technologies allow manufacturers to improve energy efficiency or performance: They can either make processors that run as fast as current models but consume far less power; or they can produce chips that use the same amount of power but run at higher clock speeds
fast, hotter chips in the PM
slower, cooler chips in the PB??
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I thought it was going to be next week though.
I am sure Apple has hardware ready to go, just waiting on a stockpile of CPU's.
Originally posted by msantti
Well, IBM should be announcing something today.
I thought it was going to be next week though.
I am sure Apple has hardware ready to go, just waiting on a stockpile of CPU's.
announcing today, describing next week is how i read it
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bring on the faster PMs
bring on the new iMac G5
wait a little longer for the G5 PB??
Because MacMinute links to a CNet article doesn't make it more true.
The fact that CNet reports it stands a little more on its own than random site... but even so, it looks like CNet just copied it from the microprocessor report guy
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...threadid=38155
The big news appears to be IBM's announcement.
Combined with the SoC comment from the Manager of IBM's ASCI Division, things are beginning to look up for Apple. Low power, very fast, northbridge. At least the iMac may be upgraded soon with a G5? possibly a Powerbook? and my hope a headless iMac
I am getting a dual G5 here at work whenever the second generation is announced. Whoot!
My G4/500 is feeling kinda slow.
"...said Richard Doherty, research director at Envisioneering. Given the chip's reduced need for power, which means longer battery life, Apple may consider it for use in a notebook computer for gaming enthusiasts, Doherty said.
"It's logical that Apple would select the flexibility of this chip for a next-generation notebook computer," Doherty said."
notebook computer for gaming enthusiats
Originally posted by gsxrboy
If IBM are going to present more details of the 970fx at that conference next week they will give cpu speeds for people to drool over.. so that means apple will announce the new g5's before that.
Maybe, maybe not, I believe IBM published a pdf describing the 970 long before Apple announced they were going to use it. This is a little different, in that Apple is now using the G5, but at least food for thought.
click age for you all
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In the light of this announcement, the MS XBOX2 switch to PPC seems much more likely.
It's also cool because we know Intel has been having a hard time ramping up Prescott and getting to 90nm. I'm sure in a few years that IBM will be far ahead there.
Originally posted by gsxrboy
If IBM are going to present more details of the 970fx at that conference next week they will give cpu speeds for people to drool over.. so that means apple will announce the new g5's before that.
Maybe not, IBM has delivered faster speeds than they anounced in the past so they wont neccessarly announce the fastest chip they have.
"Now, where IBM differs from Intel is in the use of silicon-on-insulator (SOI), which conveniently aids the implementation of strained silicon. As it announced last September , IBM removes the SiGe layer before fabrication, after applying the strained silicon onto the insulator. The upshot: it gains benefits of strained silicon using what is essentially its standard SOI process. By removing the SiGe layer, it doesn't have to integrate that material into the chip fabrication process per se. It calls the new technique, Strained Silicon Directly on Insulator (SSDOI)."
The full article is at:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/35556.html
Upgrades are coming and they're coming soon
4-11 days, I reckon
Ugliest/tackiest Apple's site has looked in a while. Not to mention, kinda boring and "so what"? It was old and tired within two days of the Super Bowl.
At this point, I'll take anything as long as it changes the homepage. A picture of Phil mowing his yard would be cooler than those bottles.
Good! Something needs to replace those idiot Pepsi bottles on the homepage. Ugh!
Ugliest/tackiest Apple's site has looked in a while. Not to mention, kinda boring and "so what"? It was old and tired within two days of the Super Bowl.
At this point, I'll take anything as long as it changes the homepage. A picture of Phil mowing his yard would be cooler than those bottles.
Lemon Bon Bon
However, with a chip controller running at upto 1.4 gig, surely we could be seeing 2.8 gig 970fxs?
And surely at that speed they'd still be far off the cheynobal heat signature of Prescott..?
Is the system controller holding back the 970 fx higher speed grades?
2.5 is a nice bump. That's an extra 1 gig extra over the current dual 2 gig. And you get extra bandwidth.
But I was kinda hoping for 2.6 or 2.8.
Still, it's very exciting news. It really puts it to Intel and AMD. IBM is running the Pentium 4 down. At 2.5 gig, we're only 700 mhz behind! A year ago? Apple was 1.6 gig behind!!! That's one hell of a claw back. Steve was right when he said Apple would make up the ground and close the gap.
And aren't AMD dependent on IBM for the 0.09 process? Aren't AMD only set to deliver the 0.09 by 2nd half 2004?
I read Intel have put back the 4 gig Prescott to early 2005! If Apple can deliver 3.2 gig Power 5 derived 970fxs by September and Intel are stuck on 3.6 gig...then the gap is closed to 400mhz! Astounding if it comes to pass! Then you got the system bandwidth.
The G5 is going to be the Pentium 5 slayer!
Lemon Bon Bon
Could we be seeing 30-40% improvements as Apple recompile 'X' for 10.4? Adobe recompiling Photoshop? Newtek recompiling Lightwave?
It's this that maybe intrigues me the most... I'd love to see IBM finally rundown those Intel compilers that fix the benchmarks in Intel's favour. Apple can say, 'Okay, we used the best Intel compilers...so we used the best IBM compilers for our chip...and guess what...'
Apple had a news item on their site about it a while back...but it's gone surprisingly quiet on that front...
Lemon Bon Bon
Originally posted by Lemon Bon Bon
....If Apple can deliver 3.2 gig Power 5 derived 970fxs by September.....
That doesn't excite me as much as the possibility of a dual core and on die memory controller. Dual G5's @ 3.0GHz., each being dual core with an on die memory controller, hmmm. Low end single G5's with single core for iMac's, Powerbooks and eMacs and the oft' mentioned/desired headless iMacs.