3GHz G5 this summer?
Apple is perdicting that the 3Ghz G5 will come out this summer. Also the G5 procceser was rated the best processer of 2003. The article states that intel and other processer makers will not even begin to rival the new G5 processers. But if you don't believe me here's the proof.
http://www.mdronline.com/watch/watch...77000000000000
http://www.mdronline.com/watch/watch...77000000000000
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Originally posted by quagmire
I fixed the link so you guys can start to believe me
It is still an old story that has been heard many times there is nothing new here.
Steve said 3 Ghz by Summer 2004, and so it shall be.
Heh... didn't he say we'd have twice the market share by now too?
Is it just me or is IBM beginning to look more and more like Motorola with each passing month...
Cheers,
C.
Originally posted by Concord
Heh... didn't he say we'd have twice the market share by now too?
Is it just me or is IBM beginning to look more and more like Motorola with each passing month...
No more so than Intel or AMD. High speed processors are complicated things, and 90 nm processes are hard. Its not unusual for delays measured in months. Motorola was having delays measured in years, and then under-delivering on that.
Originally posted by Concord
Heh... didn't he say we'd have twice the market share by now too?
No, he said all Apple had to do to double its US market share (which was 5% at the time) was to get a relatively small number (I don't remember the exact number) of Windows users to switch to the Mac. This, of course, was before 9-11 and the recession, not that it matters to global market share.
OK, people...nothing to see here...
No more so than Intel or AMD. High speed processors are complicated things, and 90 nm processes are hard. Its not unusual for delays measured in months. Motorola was having delays measured in years, and then under-delivering on that.
It's been almost 9 months since the G5 was introduced. Even the troubled PC camp has made progress in this time...
No, he said all Apple had to do to double its US market share (which was 5% at the time) was to get a relatively small number (I don't remember the exact number) of Windows users to switch to the Mac. This, of course, was before 9-11 and the recession, not that it matters to global market share.
The point was that what you want isn't always what you get. What makes you think Steve has any more influence over IBM's fabs?
C.
Originally posted by Concord
It's been almost 9 months since the G5 was introduced. Even the troubled PC camp has made progress in this time...
So true.Intel went from a 3.2 to a 3.4 ghz part.Ibm may as well give up right now.
So true.Intel went from a 3.2 to a 3.4 ghz part.Ibm may as well give up right now.
Oh, don't act so childish. Thing is, we know Intel is in troubled waters right now and to be fair they did also introduce a new class of processor recently as well (as sucky as it is). What does that say about IBM?
All I've said was that (at least so far) IBM doesn't seem to be able to produce faster chips any quicker than Motorola. 9 months without a peep is getting into Motorola territory for delays... and people expect to see 3 Ghz machines in 4 months?!?
C.
Originally posted by Concord
Oh, don't act so childish. Thing is, we know Intel is in troubled waters right now and to be fair they did also introduce a new class of processor recently as well (as sucky as it is). What does that say about IBM?
All I've said was that (at least so far) IBM doesn't seem to be able to produce faster chips any quicker than Motorola. 9 months without a peep is getting into Motorola territory for delays... and people expect to see 3 Ghz machines in 4 months?!?
To be fair: we don't know the cause of the delays, it isn't necessarily availability of the 970FX.
Originally posted by Concord
All I've said was that (at least so far) IBM doesn't seem to be able to produce faster chips any quicker than Motorola. 9 months without a peep is getting into Motorola territory for delays...
Motorola's delays were measured in years. They were almost three years behind the industry in moving to 130nm, for example.
Besides, you're counting from the date when Steve revealed the PM G5 existence, not the date IBM started shipping its CPU in volume. That's cheating.
and people expect to see 3 Ghz machines in 4 months?!?
By the end of summer, which is September 21st if memory serves.
It doesn't seem that difficult to me: The 970 just underwent a die shrink to the process it was designed for in the first place. Unlike the G4, it's designed to clock high. It should have very little trouble scaling up.
Steve wouldn't have made a big to-do about 3GHz by summer if he wasn't damn sure it would happen. He stands to lose a lot of face if IBM doesn't deliver, and so does IBM.
To be fair: we don't know the cause of the delays, it isn't necessarily availability of the 970FX.
That is true, but by extension we never know any of Apple's plans, release dates, and so on... But that's another issue.
Motorola's delays were measured in years. They were almost three years behind the industry in moving to 130nm, for example.
However I think only once did Motorola have gap longer than 1 year between upgrades.
By the end of summer, which is September 21st if memory serves.
Actually what he said was 3 Ghz within 12 months at the WWDC last July. That's why everyone's is harping on that date.
Cheers,
C.
9 months without a peep
Yeah, what are you talking about? Does a die shrink not count? How many times did the G4 go through a die shrink? I would not start doubting IBM just yet. They are not going to spend 3 billion on a fab just to let it sit there and fail.
Originally posted by Concord
Actually what he said was 3 Ghz within 12 months at the WWDC last July. That's why everyone's is harping on that date.
And he "clarified" that at Paris Expo to be 3GHz by the end of Summer.