<strong>If 'G' stands for PPC generation, wouldn't the 970 be the G6, if motorola's newest processor is the G5?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Are a bother and sister of the same generation?
With a Mot G5 (no word of it yet) and a IBM 970 coming in a year or two what would Apple do if both were used? Not the same CPU but the same generation? Hummm?
. . . With a Mot G5 (no word of it yet) and a IBM 970 coming in a year or two what would Apple do if both were used? Not the same CPU but the same generation? Hummm?
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If Apple uses G5 to identify a certain family of chips, starting with the IBM 970, they will decide what makes it a G5. Here is my guess about it. G3 is the basic chip. G4 runs all applications for the G3, plus allows software to take advantage of the Velocity Engine instruction set. G5 runs all applications for the G4, plus it is a 64-bit processor and runs 64-bit code.
There are a lot of other parts of a processor, but it ability to use certain software features is what stands out for many, if not most, customers. Whether a processor can be used in duals, quads or more only matters to Apple, and what kind of hardware they can build with it. Likewise the type of bus just makes a difference in computer performance, much like clock rate. What code it will run stands out as the obvious distinction between these generations, in my opinion.
New chip, new manufacturer, new direction. Time for a new name, something that tells us more than simply "G4" or "G3". Just call it the IBM 970. No worries about what revision a particular chip is, the name is the version. Simple. And besides, the G nomenclature is Motorola's own scheme. Here's their roadmap:
New chip, new manufacturer, new direction. Time for a new name . . .
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You could be right. Apple may want to signal that the Mac is taking a new direction. How better than to break with using G to identify the processor. Makes sense to me. But G5 is still a possibility, with about equal odds in my book.
If Apple goes with a new name, it will probably not be IBM 970, though the specifications may have this. The 970 is "the first in a family of new PowerPC processors," as stated in the IBM news release. Apple will want some way to identify this family. Using G5 is an easy way to do it, but Apple may indeed say it is time for a new name, as you say. Dave Hagan mentioned X1.
And it's not Heimlich, ala the "Heimlich Maneuver." I think you meant Heinrich Himmler.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, I meant exactly what I said. The fatal flaw in the whole plan being that exactly zero percent of my post was in any way funny. I see that now. I wish I had the power of forehindsight.
[Please note: There is another deliberate mistake in this post intended to be humorous. I also wish I learned from my mistakes.]
I'm sure Apple will replace the Gx naming scheme with something fresh and exciting, but who cares, really? It's just a name. I wouldn't matter if they called it SuckMac, people would still buy it if it was faster than the G4.
They should simply rename the lines powerMac, PowerBook, iMac, and iBook. Them they could fire half their marketing department and hire some engineers in their place.
<strong>They should simply rename the lines powerMac, PowerBook, iMac, and iBook. Them they could fire half their marketing department and hire some engineers in their place. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Give this man a job at Apple and sack ALL the marketing dept. (I hate marketing...)
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<strong>Apple will call the new processor the X1. The PowerMac X1. The PowerBook X1, etc.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Juck. You could as well call it PowerMac XP
both seemed to have G3s...
<strong>Does IBM make G4 chips ?
both seemed to have G3s...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yes in the early days of the G4. They helped MOTO to produce, i think.
<strong>If 'G' stands for PPC generation, wouldn't the 970 be the G6, if motorola's newest processor is the G5?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Are a bother and sister of the same generation?
With a Mot G5 (no word of it yet) and a IBM 970 coming in a year or two what would Apple do if both were used? Not the same CPU but the same generation? Hummm?
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. . . With a Mot G5 (no word of it yet) and a IBM 970 coming in a year or two what would Apple do if both were used? Not the same CPU but the same generation? Hummm?
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If Apple uses G5 to identify a certain family of chips, starting with the IBM 970, they will decide what makes it a G5. Here is my guess about it. G3 is the basic chip. G4 runs all applications for the G3, plus allows software to take advantage of the Velocity Engine instruction set. G5 runs all applications for the G4, plus it is a 64-bit processor and runs 64-bit code.
There are a lot of other parts of a processor, but it ability to use certain software features is what stands out for many, if not most, customers. Whether a processor can be used in duals, quads or more only matters to Apple, and what kind of hardware they can build with it. Likewise the type of bus just makes a difference in computer performance, much like clock rate. What code it will run stands out as the obvious distinction between these generations, in my opinion.
To see the above chart for yourself on Moto's site the link is here: <a href="http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?nodeId=03M943030450467M983989030230"; target="_blank">http://e-www.motorola.com/webapp/sps/site/overview.jsp?nodeId=03M943030450467M983989030230</a>;
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New chip, new manufacturer, new direction. Time for a new name . . .
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You could be right. Apple may want to signal that the Mac is taking a new direction. How better than to break with using G to identify the processor. Makes sense to me. But G5 is still a possibility, with about equal odds in my book.
If Apple goes with a new name, it will probably not be IBM 970, though the specifications may have this. The 970 is "the first in a family of new PowerPC processors," as stated in the IBM news release. Apple will want some way to identify this family. Using G5 is an easy way to do it, but Apple may indeed say it is time for a new name, as you say. Dave Hagan mentioned X1.
it's old, tired and used.
I would acutally be happy if they ditched letters alltogether.
Will prolly happen about as soon as car manufacturers do it.
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Project Name: Heimlich Himmler.
Advertising logo:
What I expect Apple to do is "Power Mac G5 [as in 5th Generation Power Mac] using the PowerPC 970 and Radeon 10000".
Barto
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Project Name: Heimlich Himmler.
Advertising logo:
Uh, yeah Belle...
And it's not Heimlich, ala the "Heimlich Maneuver." I think you meant Heinrich Himmler.
What the hell. I´m going to add my two cents: It won´t be called 970 for the same reasons that the G4 wasn´t called 7400, 7410 etc.
Why not H1? Same idea taken to the next level.
I agree with it NOT being called the 970, so the question remains, what will apple call it? (If they even buy it)
I liked the i5. that does sound good, but if they are gonna change the letter coefficient, then why continue the number scheme?
"The All New, Apple i1" perhaps?
I hope they don't continue the current naming scheme, it's too intel-like. (G3, G4, G5 = P1, P2, P3, P4, etc...)
So...maybe they will give it a name it's own,
"The All New Apple Nucli Desktop"
it will be interesting to see, thats for sure.
-ST
<strong>Uh, yeah Belle...
And it's not Heimlich, ala the "Heimlich Maneuver." I think you meant Heinrich Himmler.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, I meant exactly what I said. The fatal flaw in the whole plan being that exactly zero percent of my post was in any way funny. I see that now. I wish I had the power of forehindsight.
[Please note: There is another deliberate mistake in this post intended to be humorous. I also wish I learned from my mistakes.]
<strong>They should simply rename the lines powerMac, PowerBook, iMac, and iBook. Them they could fire half their marketing department and hire some engineers in their place.