Carol, you are a goddess among us lowly mortal men. I bow down at the feet of your excellent wisdom and advice.
That said, I can also not stress enough that you NOT come on too strong. I once made the mistake of doing that I probably permanently ruined any chance of being with her.
Just to tell you how badly I funked it all up, "E" and I became very good friends in high school and continued that friendship into college. We were the best of friends and even talked about what kind of parents we'd be if we had kids. Well, one day I had this bright idea of a "master plan" for E and me to be together. It went all the way out to a couple years after we would graduate college. I spent an evening with her and told her all about the "master plan."
BAD IDEA!
That totally scared her away from any possibility of the two of us being in a relationship together. I should have taken it easy and just flat out told her how I felt and that I didn't know where things might go from there.
Now in your situation, I wouldn't even tell her how you feel yet. That will come later. For now, just take the advice that we've given and have a good time.
It really only took 9 years of looking, four failed relationships, one long term, to come to grips with the reality that women dominate the relationship and the progress it makes. You always suspect it when you are younger; you watch you and your friends drool over the flirtatious girl with the tight shorts and you wonder, why is she any better than the infinitely more friendly less flirtatious tom-girl standing amongst your friends? But still you persist, stupidly, blindly and with no recourse for a course correction mid-stream. Many a virtual love has been ruined this way; many a real love has.
It's an unfortunate fact of the psychology of romance that doubt is romantic. Come on too strong and you will blow it.
What's cool is the strength to make your feelings known whilst being obviously on top of them.
It's a fact also that you can't know how true this is until you're forced to learn it by blowing it. Heh. It's a wonder the human race has lasted so long.
Well, Hassan, you just said in five sentences what it took me a page and a half to more or less communicate.
You are an amazingly astute, perceptive and intuitive person (and a lot of fun as well!). I love reading your posts. And you write SO well.
When you get around to having kids, you should have at least five, to keep those wonderful genes of yours flowing through the gene pool.
I've had the same thought about the human race SO many times - a few even during the course of this thread.
I wasn't 'coming on' to you, Hassan. I was just giving you a lavish and truly meant compliment .
As a teacher, I do this a lot - but only when I really mean it. I think that when a person is impressed with someone's abilities, that person should make those nice thoughts known, instead of keeping them a secret - as so many do.
Chris, I like your comparison/contrast of Steve and Bill, and the consequent philosophies behind their companies. Many of your classmates may be hearing about this for the first time. It's good for them to have their eyes opened.
Also, I think writing about what is important to you is great. You are speaking from your heart, and that comes across quite clearly.
Yeah, the speech is obviously Apple related, and unapologetically so. It also plays into my mother's ordeal though, and ties the two together, humanizing technology.
Anyway, Kristin and I had our talk today. She brought it up, since I guess she could tell something was on my mind. She told me that even if tom cruise came up to her and asked her out right now she'd still say no. She needs freedom in her life right now, and I can respect that. She she wants to be friends and hang out a lot and throughout college too. She said that I should give her a call sometime in college just to see how things are, and then who knows what could come of that.
Anyway, kind of depressing...
I just really dont want to get into specifics or talk about this right now, it hurts quite a bit. I actually had a nose bleed, though I dont know if it is related or now, lol.
I might do what Carol said, ease the pain by asking some girls to do something...maybe i'll get a few yes's.\
Depressing, yeah, but at least you know. I say: don't brood and don't entertain false hopes - they're the worst. Stay out of her way for a couple of weeks if you have to, don't make a 'point' of it, do it for your own brain.
A bunch of complete strangers all over the planet are right behind you, if that's any help.
Oh god, I'm sorry 'tosh but you too will be sufficiently ancient to see the funny side of this one day (and I'm laughing at others responses as much as anything).
But just for future reference
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Originally posted by Messiahtosh
Anyway, Kristin and I had our talk today. She brought it up, since I guess she could tell something was on my mind.
Diddums, she brought it up because her friend told her everything you said after your little online conversation.
Now, Chester be prepared to be flamed for being a cold, heartless bitch.
Oh god, I'm sorry 'tosh but you too will be sufficiently ancient to see the funny side of this one day (and I'm laughing at others responses as much as anything).
But just for future reference
Diddums, she brought it up because her friend told her everything you said after your little online conversation.
Now, Chester be prepared to be flamed for being a cold, heartless bitch.
This is only the beginning Messiahtosh. Trust me.
you know, i figured the female friend would go behind chris' back....
the moral of the story is that women are not to be trusted unless they are obviously on your side...
I am hurting like I never thought I would, feeling for her what I never thought I could, I'm missing out on her, she's missing out on me, I'll only be free if she enslaves me.--'tosh
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That said, I can also not stress enough that you NOT come on too strong. I once made the mistake of doing that I probably permanently ruined any chance of being with her.
Just to tell you how badly I funked it all up, "E" and I became very good friends in high school and continued that friendship into college. We were the best of friends and even talked about what kind of parents we'd be if we had kids. Well, one day I had this bright idea of a "master plan" for E and me to be together. It went all the way out to a couple years after we would graduate college. I spent an evening with her and told her all about the "master plan."
BAD IDEA!
That totally scared her away from any possibility of the two of us being in a relationship together. I should have taken it easy and just flat out told her how I felt and that I didn't know where things might go from there.
Now in your situation, I wouldn't even tell her how you feel yet. That will come later. For now, just take the advice that we've given and have a good time.
Stop the madness and the world is a better place?
Originally posted by Splinemodel
Girls who play games suck.
Forget her. You'll find a better girl in college. Where are you going?
She's not playing games. If what her friend said is true then it couldn't be more clear == no game playing.
Originally posted by Scott
She's not playing games. If what her friend said is true then it couldn't be more clear == no game playing.
I agree completely.
(Now, I'll have to admit that there are guys who ensnare women as well.... but I honestly don't know any...)
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
It's an unfortunate fact of the psychology of romance that doubt is romantic. Come on too strong and you will blow it.
What's cool is the strength to make your feelings known whilst being obviously on top of them.
It's a fact also that you can't know how true this is until you're forced to learn it by blowing it. Heh. It's a wonder the human race has lasted so long.
Well, Hassan, you just said in five sentences what it took me a page and a half to more or less communicate.
You are an amazingly astute, perceptive and intuitive person (and a lot of fun as well!). I love reading your posts. And you write SO well.
When you get around to having kids, you should have at least five, to keep those wonderful genes of yours flowing through the gene pool.
I've had the same thought about the human race SO many times - a few even during the course of this thread.
I'm sorry.
Originally posted by billybobsky
i think the post concerning the games was more directed at Carol's comments about women with their various snares...
(Now, I'll have to admit that there are guys who ensnare women as well.... but I honestly don't know any...)
AH!
Originally posted by Hassan i Sabbah
My heart belongs to BR.
I'm sorry.
I wasn't 'coming on' to you, Hassan. I was just giving you a lavish and truly meant compliment .
As a teacher, I do this a lot - but only when I really mean it. I think that when a person is impressed with someone's abilities, that person should make those nice thoughts known, instead of keeping them a secret - as so many do.
I too have a soft spot in my heart for BR.
I know you love Apple, Macs, and Steve Jobs Messiahtosh, but really is this the way you want to go out?
Maybe you're not a "this is what I learned" kind of guy, but a rant about Macs and marketshare is not the way to go.
I'm a semi-professional speech writer, so if you would like some ideas, send me a PM.
Also, I think writing about what is important to you is great. You are speaking from your heart, and that comes across quite clearly.
Good job.
Anyway, Kristin and I had our talk today. She brought it up, since I guess she could tell something was on my mind. She told me that even if tom cruise came up to her and asked her out right now she'd still say no. She needs freedom in her life right now, and I can respect that. She she wants to be friends and hang out a lot and throughout college too. She said that I should give her a call sometime in college just to see how things are, and then who knows what could come of that.
Anyway, kind of depressing...
I just really dont want to get into specifics or talk about this right now, it hurts quite a bit. I actually had a nose bleed, though I dont know if it is related or now, lol.
I might do what Carol said, ease the pain by asking some girls to do something...maybe i'll get a few yes's.
A bunch of complete strangers all over the planet are right behind you, if that's any help.
Oh god, I'm sorry 'tosh but you too will be sufficiently ancient to see the funny side of this one day (and I'm laughing at others responses as much as anything).
But just for future reference
Originally posted by Messiahtosh
Anyway, Kristin and I had our talk today. She brought it up, since I guess she could tell something was on my mind.
Diddums, she brought it up because her friend told her everything you said after your little online conversation.
Now, Chester be prepared to be flamed for being a cold, heartless bitch.
This is only the beginning Messiahtosh. Trust me.
Originally posted by crazychester
ROFLMAO until tears are streaming down my face.
Oh god, I'm sorry 'tosh but you too will be sufficiently ancient to see the funny side of this one day (and I'm laughing at others responses as much as anything).
But just for future reference
Diddums, she brought it up because her friend told her everything you said after your little online conversation.
Now, Chester be prepared to be flamed for being a cold, heartless bitch.
This is only the beginning Messiahtosh. Trust me.
you know, i figured the female friend would go behind chris' back....
the moral of the story is that women are not to be trusted unless they are obviously on your side...
you cold, heartless bitch...
Originally posted by billybobsky
you know, i figured the female friend would go behind chris' back....
You can bet the farm on it.
the moral of the story is that women are not to be trusted unless they are obviously on your side...
Exactly. You need to talk? Talk to your male friends or female friends who aren't friends with "The One".
you cold, heartless bitch...
Billybob, I know this is just your way of saying you love me and you want my babies.
Originally posted by billybobsky
are you some sort of tropical parasite? because, in that case, i may already have had them... (kidding, I think)
I'll show you my flagellum if you show me yours......