<strong>Actually, there was a study a couple of years ago that showed that men who used laptops had a lower sperm count than those who did not.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Likely due to heat issues. Rather than lead lined maybe you should refrigerate those undies...
A long time ago I suggested they make an third consumer product (this was before the Cube) with a detachable screen. The screen contained most of the guts while the base had the ports. The screen would be touch sensitive and communicate with the base via Airport when needed. The base acted as an Airport base station and it had the internet connections such as Ethernet and a 56K modem. You could use the tablet on its own but it also connected to the base and then you had access to the keyboard and mouse and all your other peripherals. Perhaps the media bay would be in the base as well to save costs. There could even be an extra hard drive in the base like the DuoDock. This would be too expensive for an iMac but I think it would have been more popular than the Cube. It would be both a portable and a desktop.
Now that I think about it, I would settle for a PowerBook Ti version of the DuoDock. That was such a great idea but they let it languish. It could have been great if they followed up on it.
Its OK, Mac users have always had cast iron balls (or is that titanium).
Its the PeeCee converts that I feel sorry for!
Or perhaps Steve is playing the long game, genetically re-engineering the population over several centuries to erradicate a love of biege. Perhaps the radiation can be targeted at specific chromosomes!
<strong>Anything transmitting at 5ghz on your lap must be of a very short wavelenght and hence dangerous to your "Natural bodily fluids".</strong><hr></blockquote>
you've already got them shooting all over you every day. Airport runs with your microwave oven, and are you a crispy critter yet?
you've already got them shooting all over you every day. Airport runs with your microwave oven, and are you a crispy critter yet?</strong><hr></blockquote>
5 GHz radiation has a wavelength of 6 cm. This is large enough that its primary danger is simply from heat (a la microwave oven).
The issue, however, is not wavelength, but of power level. Airport needs to send only a strong enough signal to reliably transfer data from one self-powered device to another. Any small amount of heat generated by its interacting with living tissue is quickly and easily dissipated.
Dangers from radiation are cumulative. It is a combination of power and exposure. Personally, the thoughts of operating one of these on my lap even if it only warms my balls isn't one I relish.
Forget what I wrote (last post) after some more searching it seems touchscreen LCDs have come down from those price levels and it seems are being made cheap enough to consider for a project such as the one we are talking about (phew!).
Something else has me thinking...
Bill Gates used CES 2001 to announce his XBox game system and as we all know Gates is also set to start off CES 2002 with a Monday evening keynote (what he is planning to talk about is anyones guess as of now).
We do know Microsoft has been working on a tablet design of their own (looking at the mockup it seems like they were taking the colors of the old iBook) here goes a link...
Gates and Company stated that the goal was to have the tablet available in 2002 (now we all know how good MS is a keeping it's goals but lets take their word for it)... CES is the first electronics trade show of 2002 and the time when MS said it wanted to roll out the tablet. Gates used 2001 to roll out the XBox (even if it didn't ship till Nov? Dec? of 2001) Could Gates plan to do the same thing with the Tablet and if so could that explain why Steve moved his keynote to Monday AM?
I know this sounds way too good to be true but...
Imagine if Steve showed off a Mac OS X enabled tablet that will be shipping NOW (or say 30 days) and then in the evening Bill Gates gets up to show off something that we all know would be much less elegant and usable and then he has to tell the audience that it will be shipping in the fall? Oh tell me that wouldn't be CLASSIC with a capital C!
Okay I know it's too perfect but if I'm gonna dream I'm gonna go all the way!
Let's leave the PDAs and tablets to others shall we. Apple needs to concentrate on serious professional hardware, not some impractical tablet selling for god knows what.
It seems to me, reading through the various pre-MWSF fora here and elsewhere that there is a real and fairly powerful perceived need for Apple to release a tablet computer. Certainly I would love one (or two, or three).
You don't want one? Fine, but let the rest of us dream and, perhaps, receive.
I like the idea of a tablet. And I don't care if typing is faster and more efficient. Why?
Because 50% of the US population doesn't type, doesn't want to type, couldn't care less about typing!!!!!
And yet with OSX and web browsing, they don't need to type!!
Do you get it yet? The next big thing in computing HAS to be independent of typing!!
Palms don't need it; mp3 players don't need it; QT players don't need it. Tablets wouldn't need it. A simple USB port could enable typing, but there are lots of applications and utilities to information/education/entertainment that DO NOT need a keyboard interface.
So please whatever your opinion about a tablet, the keyboard interface question is irrelevant to the discussion. A tablet is NOT a keyboardless laptop, it is a different computing appliance.
<strong>Let's leave the PDAs and tablets to others shall we. Apple needs to concentrate on serious professional hardware, not some impractical tablet selling for god knows what.</strong><hr></blockquote>
TW this is where you are so very very wrong... What has the iMac proven? First and foremost is that Apple CAN sell into the CONSUMER space and if you show them something interesting it will sell! The iMac wasn't some superfast workhorse (not by a long shot) nor was it very expandable. None of that mattered, they did something new and different and the media ran away with it...
IMHO the HYPE sold the iMac and it sold it for quite a long stretch.. Then like everything else the HYPE wore off... It has to that's the way the game works.
Jobs could put his time and energy into building the best box ever, speed, hd, two dozen pci slots, the works, all using the latest versions of EVERYTHING on the motherboard... Guess what that would make Apple... SGI or Sun or insert some other ultra highend box maker. A box like that WILL NOT grow sales... It can't! The box would cost too much money and everyone would say WOW but then look at the bottom line and move on.
Apple needs to GROW it's market and the iMac has shown that the consumer space is the place to do it. Once you get the IT managers of the world to buy an Apple branded product for their Wife Son Daughter Mother (whatever) it will make it that much easier to deal with them on a business level (if that's something Apple still wants to do and I'm not sure they do)
Microsoft has the 'business' market... no doubt about it.. the scitec market is still very much in play and with OS X Apple will hold if not GROW that market. Graphics market, Apple can hold it's own and once MOT/IBM fork over more Hz (giga++ is what I'm wishing for) they will hold/grow that area as well.
If I know Microsoft you'll see them start to buy up more game developers and the owners of those companies will sit on the sidelines with the founders of Ashton-Tate, Lotus, Borland, Wordstar, Wordperfect, Digital Research, Novel and a bunch of others. The feds will step back in but they won't bite...
Apple NEEDS the consumer space they NEED the 'seats' (market share) if they don't get them they will fail.
The only thing that saved Apple (and it wasn't the iMac and it wasn't even Steve) but the Feds looking into the Microsoft dealings. Microsoft NEEDED and still does NEED Apple but they will not last forever when the Government finds a new target Microsoft will make its moves (buy up the last of the pesky 3rd party developers - Game developers) and then kill MS Office for the Mac and then it's checkmate.
Apple needs to make themselves look important enough to develop for and they need to keep in the good eyes of the press. So long as they do MS would be in deep trouble if they tried to pull a fast one but if Apple doesn't do that then nobody will care.
**IF** Gates is going to into the Microsoft Tablet at CES then Apple better be in the game. The tablet WILL sell (given the price being right) in the consumer space and if Apple does have a tablet ready for MWSF then I **know** it will be better than whatever Bill and the boys could come up with. Finally **IF** Apple can SHIP before Microsoft then Apple will be riding a HUGE wave of press...
Remember the press Apple got with the iMac? Well they were the talk of the world (most of it) for quite some time and that was WITHOUT Bill Gates doing something similar... If people can finally compare MS vs Apple (WinTel vs Mac) whatever in the spotlight of the press it would be AWSOME!
Apple has to do the right thing when it comes to price... And yes that does worry me a bit.. but so long as it isn't a HUGE gap I'm quite sure the Apple will be more feature rich and more user friendly and that's all they need.
Oh I'm starting to ramble so I'll get off the soapbox but I hope you can you see why I think Apple needs to do this?
I'd love to hear your reasons why they need to just build a super fast box with all the bells and whistles (and remember Apple is not in control of the CPU speed here so you do understand they would have to sit on their hands till MOT/IBM say it's ready)...
With the idea as outlined by myself and others here in this thread our plan can be put into play now...
Just remember Jags or Porche might be killer fast but the V-W Bug / PT got the sales.
Comments
Actually, there was a study a couple of years ago that showed that men who used laptops had a lower sperm count than those who did not.
And 87.234% of statistics are completely made up.
<strong>Actually, there was a study a couple of years ago that showed that men who used laptops had a lower sperm count than those who did not.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Likely due to heat issues. Rather than lead lined maybe you should refrigerate those undies...
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Now that I think about it, I would settle for a PowerBook Ti version of the DuoDock. That was such a great idea but they let it languish. It could have been great if they followed up on it.
Its the PeeCee converts that I feel sorry for!
Or perhaps Steve is playing the long game, genetically re-engineering the population over several centuries to erradicate a love of biege. Perhaps the radiation can be targeted at specific chromosomes!
(OK I'm getting silly now)
<strong>Anything transmitting at 5ghz on your lap must be of a very short wavelenght and hence dangerous to your "Natural bodily fluids".</strong><hr></blockquote>
you've already got them shooting all over you every day. Airport runs with your microwave oven, and are you a crispy critter yet?
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you've already got them shooting all over you every day. Airport runs with your microwave oven, and are you a crispy critter yet?</strong><hr></blockquote>
5 GHz radiation has a wavelength of 6 cm. This is large enough that its primary danger is simply from heat (a la microwave oven).
The issue, however, is not wavelength, but of power level. Airport needs to send only a strong enough signal to reliably transfer data from one self-powered device to another. Any small amount of heat generated by its interacting with living tissue is quickly and easily dissipated.
[ 12-22-2001: Message edited by: TJM ]</p>
12" screens are apx $700 - $900
15" screens are apx $999 - $1500
This is JUST for the display... add $??? to the price if you want a tablet computer.
Baaahhh!
Oh well... It sure was nice to dream about it for awhile...
Dave
Something else has me thinking...
Bill Gates used CES 2001 to announce his XBox game system and as we all know Gates is also set to start off CES 2002 with a Monday evening keynote (what he is planning to talk about is anyones guess as of now).
We do know Microsoft has been working on a tablet design of their own (looking at the mockup it seems like they were taking the colors of the old iBook) here goes a link...
<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/features/2000/nov00/11-13tabletpc.asp"; target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/PressPass/features/2000/nov00/11-13ta bletpc.asp</a>
Gates and Company stated that the goal was to have the tablet available in 2002 (now we all know how good MS is a keeping it's goals but lets take their word for it)... CES is the first electronics trade show of 2002 and the time when MS said it wanted to roll out the tablet. Gates used 2001 to roll out the XBox (even if it didn't ship till Nov? Dec? of 2001) Could Gates plan to do the same thing with the Tablet and if so could that explain why Steve moved his keynote to Monday AM?
I know this sounds way too good to be true but...
Imagine if Steve showed off a Mac OS X enabled tablet that will be shipping NOW (or say 30 days) and then in the evening Bill Gates gets up to show off something that we all know would be much less elegant and usable and then he has to tell the audience that it will be shipping in the fall? Oh tell me that wouldn't be CLASSIC with a capital C!
Okay I know it's too perfect but if I'm gonna dream I'm gonna go all the way!
Dave
[ 12-23-2001: Message edited by: DaveGee ]</p>
If that's the "one more thing" I'll be ordering one as quick as I can dial 1-800-MY-APPLE.
Zack
It seems to me, reading through the various pre-MWSF fora here and elsewhere that there is a real and fairly powerful perceived need for Apple to release a tablet computer. Certainly I would love one (or two, or three).
You don't want one? Fine, but let the rest of us dream and, perhaps, receive.
Thanks,
bri
Because 50% of the US population doesn't type, doesn't want to type, couldn't care less about typing!!!!!
And yet with OSX and web browsing, they don't need to type!!
Do you get it yet? The next big thing in computing HAS to be independent of typing!!
Palms don't need it; mp3 players don't need it; QT players don't need it. Tablets wouldn't need it. A simple USB port could enable typing, but there are lots of applications and utilities to information/education/entertainment that DO NOT need a keyboard interface.
So please whatever your opinion about a tablet, the keyboard interface question is irrelevant to the discussion. A tablet is NOT a keyboardless laptop, it is a different computing appliance.
Sorry for the rant. Really.
<strong>Let's leave the PDAs and tablets to others shall we. Apple needs to concentrate on serious professional hardware, not some impractical tablet selling for god knows what.</strong><hr></blockquote>
TW this is where you are so very very wrong... What has the iMac proven? First and foremost is that Apple CAN sell into the CONSUMER space and if you show them something interesting it will sell! The iMac wasn't some superfast workhorse (not by a long shot) nor was it very expandable. None of that mattered, they did something new and different and the media ran away with it...
IMHO the HYPE sold the iMac and it sold it for quite a long stretch.. Then like everything else the HYPE wore off... It has to that's the way the game works.
Jobs could put his time and energy into building the best box ever, speed, hd, two dozen pci slots, the works, all using the latest versions of EVERYTHING on the motherboard... Guess what that would make Apple... SGI or Sun or insert some other ultra highend box maker. A box like that WILL NOT grow sales... It can't! The box would cost too much money and everyone would say WOW but then look at the bottom line and move on.
Apple needs to GROW it's market and the iMac has shown that the consumer space is the place to do it. Once you get the IT managers of the world to buy an Apple branded product for their Wife Son Daughter Mother (whatever) it will make it that much easier to deal with them on a business level (if that's something Apple still wants to do and I'm not sure they do)
Microsoft has the 'business' market... no doubt about it.. the scitec market is still very much in play and with OS X Apple will hold if not GROW that market. Graphics market, Apple can hold it's own and once MOT/IBM fork over more Hz (giga++ is what I'm wishing for) they will hold/grow that area as well.
If I know Microsoft you'll see them start to buy up more game developers and the owners of those companies will sit on the sidelines with the founders of Ashton-Tate, Lotus, Borland, Wordstar, Wordperfect, Digital Research, Novel and a bunch of others. The feds will step back in but they won't bite...
Apple NEEDS the consumer space they NEED the 'seats' (market share) if they don't get them they will fail.
The only thing that saved Apple (and it wasn't the iMac and it wasn't even Steve) but the Feds looking into the Microsoft dealings. Microsoft NEEDED and still does NEED Apple but they will not last forever when the Government finds a new target Microsoft will make its moves (buy up the last of the pesky 3rd party developers - Game developers) and then kill MS Office for the Mac and then it's checkmate.
Apple needs to make themselves look important enough to develop for and they need to keep in the good eyes of the press. So long as they do MS would be in deep trouble if they tried to pull a fast one but if Apple doesn't do that then nobody will care.
**IF** Gates is going to into the Microsoft Tablet at CES then Apple better be in the game. The tablet WILL sell (given the price being right) in the consumer space and if Apple does have a tablet ready for MWSF then I **know** it will be better than whatever Bill and the boys could come up with. Finally **IF** Apple can SHIP before Microsoft then Apple will be riding a HUGE wave of press...
Remember the press Apple got with the iMac? Well they were the talk of the world (most of it) for quite some time and that was WITHOUT Bill Gates doing something similar... If people can finally compare MS vs Apple (WinTel vs Mac) whatever in the spotlight of the press it would be AWSOME!
Apple has to do the right thing when it comes to price... And yes that does worry me a bit.. but so long as it isn't a HUGE gap I'm quite sure the Apple will be more feature rich and more user friendly and that's all they need.
Oh I'm starting to ramble so I'll get off the soapbox but I hope you can you see why I think Apple needs to do this?
I'd love to hear your reasons why they need to just build a super fast box with all the bells and whistles (and remember Apple is not in control of the CPU speed here so you do understand they would have to sit on their hands till MOT/IBM say it's ready)...
With the idea as outlined by myself and others here in this thread our plan can be put into play now...
Just remember Jags or Porche might be killer fast but the V-W Bug / PT got the sales.
Dave