New Cinema Displays at WWDC

icfireball · April 22, 2005 11:26AM

I was looking at Apples line up of displays and I couldnt imagine having a larger than 30" screen monitor. I don't think Apple will go larger than 30", but if they do, it will most likely be 32", possibly 35"(?). I think the key thing will be a major (or significant at least) price cut. LCD monitors are getting a lot cheaper. If i would have to guess, Aples 20" display will drop down to $599-$699. This would be a great break though for prices, and would make perfect sense for Apples Mac Mini Users. Apple needs to provide a monitor that Mac Mini users can afford -- a $599 price tag is getting there, and they might also introduce a smaller screen size model (although not likely), for instance, 17", for in the $399-$499 range.

ipodandimac · April 22, 2005 11:59AM

um there are tons of ways that apple can update the displays without making them bigger. size isn't everything.

chevaliermalfet · April 22, 2005 12:03PM

I don't see Apple's 20" price going below $799, if that. It's not where they are in the market.

gugy · April 22, 2005 12:27PM

I think it makes perfect sense to have a bigger monitor than a 30" display. Many professionals out there will welcome such a monitor.

IMHO, with the "Year of HD" Apple might intend to have such a monitor in the living room as well. Why not.

It would be nice to have price cuts as well.

Let's hope so!

power apple · April 22, 2005 12:36PM

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Originally posted by gugy

I think it makes perfect sense to have a bigger monitor than a 30" display. Many professionals out there will welcome such a monitor.

hmmm... I'm not so sure many "professionals" would really want such a display. Notice that, even on the finest LCDs, when looking from an angle the colors are not reproduced correctly. Going bigger than 30" you would have to sit at a distance from the screen or the colors will look very unconsitant. At least with current technology.

Basically, if you really need more space than a 30" can for work, go buy another and run dual displays. Going beyond 30" at the moment is probablyy more a geek dream (

) than a real need, not to say practical.

gugy · April 22, 2005 1:02PM

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Originally posted by Power Apple

hmmm... I'm not so sure many "professionals" would really want such a display. Notice that, even on the finest LCDs, when looking from an angle the colors are not reproduced correctly. Going bigger than 30" you would have to sit at a distance from the screen or the colors will look very unconsitant. At least with current technology.

Basically, if you really need more space than a 30" can for work, go buy another and run dual displays. Going beyond 30" at the moment is probablyy more a geek dream ( ) than a real need, not to say practical.

Well, that's your opinion.

I know many people who would love to have a bigger monitor, specially to work in programs like FCP, After effects and 3d. This is not going to be a monitor for the average Joe. Some people don't like the idea of dual monitors.

Apple could market to the home entertainment crowd that today are buying displays bigger than 50".

Regarding color accuracy if that is crucial for your work then you'll need the finest CRTs. LCD are not yet good enough for it.

carson o'genic · April 22, 2005 1:13PM

I'll say 'big enough' when the wall behind my desktop becomes my desktop...and I can afford it.

dave j · April 22, 2005 1:49PM

I'd have to agree with Power Apple that 30" is big enough - at least for me.

Question: Samsung is rumored to soon have a 30 incher. Anyone with info, links? Thanks.

mikenap · April 22, 2005 2:29PM

for your notes gang, I just bought a dell 20" wide screen for my home office after reading rave reviews at macintouch, and it's amazing. I bought it for $470 shipped last month, my partner just bought a bunch of them at a dell website special yesterday for $370!!!! There 24" is well under $900. I'd love to see those guys roll out a 30". I've always owned Apple or LaCie monitors, and am planing on getting a 30" just because it's freakin' amazing and i have budgeted money to spend, but the Dell deals are trully outrageous. I just put a bit of black tape over the dell logo and i'm good to go!

e1618978 · April 22, 2005 2:40PM

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Originally posted by mikenap

for your notes gang, I just bought a dell 20" wide screen for my home office after reading rave reviews at macintouch, and it's amazing. I bought it for $470 shipped last month, my partner just bought a bunch of them at a dell website special yesterday for $370!!!! There 24" is well under $900. I'd love to see those guys roll out a 30". I've always owned Apple or LaCie monitors, and am planing on getting a 30" just because it's freakin' amazing and i have budgeted money to spend, but the Dell deals are trully outrageous. I just put a bit of black tape over the dell logo and i'm good to go!

How do you get the sub-$900 deal on the 24"? They have it at $1120 on the dell website...

icfireball · April 22, 2005 3:14PM

I just looked on the dell site, and its not sub 900...its 1000...(for the 24" widescreen)

link: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...1&link_number=

I still think that the price on the Apple Displays will be cut...Apple can't compete with the rest of the market if they don't. The prices they are running on are year old or more prices for LCD monitors. Also, remeber, cheaper LCDs would help sell the mac mini and vice versa

mikenap · April 22, 2005 3:46PM

you never pay what dell has listed. What you do is go to deal sites like dealnews.com, bensbargains.com, slickdeals.net, etc. and watch for the coupon how-to's that show you what coupons to apply. An associate just bought the 24" Dell for $870 shipped last week. He had to ad anohter purchase of ten bucks or something to make the coupons work, but the directions were clearly spelled out at the deal sites.

dave j · April 22, 2005 5:13PM

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Originally posted by mikenap

you never pay what dell has listed. What you do is go to deal sites like dealnews.com, bensbargains.com, slickdeals.net, etc. and watch for the coupon how-to's that show you what coupons to apply. An associate just bought the 24" Dell for $870 shipped last week.

Thanks for the inside story. I too read that someone bought a 24" for $870.

onlooker · April 22, 2005 7:05PM

I don't know if Apple will have a new Display at WWDC, but they probably should drop their prices because if not, I'm going to be buying two of those DELL HD Cinema wide displays for half the price with my next computer purchase.

gugy · April 22, 2005 9:37PM

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Originally posted by onlooker

I don't know if Apple will have a new Display at WWDC, but they probably should drop their prices because if not, I'm going to be buying two of those DELL HD Cinema wide displays for half the price with my next computer purchase.

Yeah, The Dell prices are very nice.

But,

is the monitor cheap looking?

are the specs as good as Apple's?

If that's the case, I'll also considering buying 2 Dell's 24".

gugy · April 22, 2005 9:46PM

I just check Dell's website and I have to say the monitor doesn't look as nice as Apple's. Specially if you look the side view images. i don't know, i guess I have to see in person to have my final say.

garyp · April 22, 2005 10:18PM

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Originally posted by Carson O'Genic

I'll say 'big enough' when the wall behind my desktop becomes my desktop...and I can afford it.

I'll second that one. And I want a voice interface. Talk to the wall & it does what you want.

blue2kdave · April 23, 2005 1:15AM

This may sound strange, but the 30" is too big for me. I had that reaction the first time I saw one at least year's WWDC, and have it every time I walk into the Apple store. There is a real difference between passive and active use of a display. For TVs the bigger the better. But for computer monitors you reach the point of diminishing returns. As others have mentioned, the bigger the monitor, the more the tendency to place it farther away, making everyday things like reading text more difficult.

garyp · April 23, 2005 11:35AM

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Originally posted by blue2kdave

As others have mentioned, the bigger the monitor, the more the tendency to place it farther away, making everyday things like reading text more difficult.

This will be solved by the advent of the resolution-independent GUI.

anders · April 23, 2005 12:06PM

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Originally posted by garyp

This will be solved by the advent of the resolution-independent GUI.

So you want a bigger display that you have to move further away so the text have to be larger?

Exactly where is the benefit in that?

garyp · April 23, 2005 12:12PM

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Originally posted by Anders

So you want a bigger display that you have to move further away so the text have to be larger?

Exactly where is the benefit in that?

Depends on what you use the computer for. I use it to make art. I feel like a slave tied to a keyboard & a chair, a short distance from a small screen. I'd rather roam about the room talking to a magic wall of light that does my bidding. Imagination is important to some, & unimportant to others.

New Cinema Displays at WWDC

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