did anyone catch the specs on the video supported?
768kb for h.264 vs 2.5mb mpeg4 (at a higer res... 480x480??) the cpu must crap out with h.264 decoding.
That is interesting. Surely, despite how good H.264 is, 2.5 Mbit MPEG4 is going to look better than 768 kbit H.264?
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Originally posted by dirk gently
I don't know why apple didn't go all out and make something that would compete with the PSP. Is this aimed at the same people who want to watch low-res/small screen content on their cell phones? Music videos?...whats the point?
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Originally posted by iPoster
Video on a 2.5 inch screen?
I don't get how that is a big deal.
You guys have got the wrong idea. This is a music device that happens to play videos too. With the iPod, Music playing is the primary feature, playing videos secondary. With the PSP, motion video is the primary function, but it happens to play music too. Maybe in the future we'll see an iPod whose primary function is video.
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Originally posted by iShawn
I saw the mockups and I liked the wide-screened ones
I liked them too, but one problem is that you have to use them in the horizontal orientation, with the click wheel to the side of the screen. This makes it harder to use with one hand.
What would be cool is if such an iPod had a built-in orientation detector, and rotated the image on the display according to whether you were holding the iPod horizontal or vertical. The symbols (Play/Pause, Skip, etc.) for the buttons on the click wheel could be generated by L.E.D.s so that their positions could also be changed.
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Originally posted by iPoster
And it's useless with my 2 year old iMac G4! (no FireWire, iMac dosen't have USB 2.0)
Yes, the loss of FireWire is extremely annoying and disappointing. I could almost understand when they stopped supplying the FireWire cable as standard, but removing support for FireWire (which Apple developed) altogether is a great shame.
This iPod looks really wide, no FireWire support is a bad thing and also old accessories wont work because of the remote but that's good for accessory companies!
True to previous AppleInsider reports and expectations, Apple today officially introduced a new iPod, featuring a 2.5-inch color screen which can display album artwork and photos, and play video including music videos, video Podcasts, home movies and television shows.
The new iPod holds up to 15,000 songs, 25,000 photos or over 150 hours of video and is available in a 30GB model for $299 and a 60GB model for $399, with both models available in stunning white or black designs.
?The new iPod is the best music player ever?it's 30 percent thinner and has 50 percent more storage than its predecessor?yet it sells for the same price and plays stunning video on its 2.5-inch color screen,? said Steve Jobs, Apple?s CEO. ?Because millions of people around the world will buy this new iPod to play music, it will quickly become the most popular portable video player in history.?
The new iPod plays music, audiobooks, audio Podcasts, video Podcasts, home movies, music videos and popular television shows like ?Lost? and ?Desperate Housewives.?
The combination of iPod and iTunes 6 now provides customers with a seamless experience for buying, managing and playing video as well as audio content, including over 2,000 music videos, six short films from the Academy-Award winning Pixar Animation Studios, and five television shows from ABC and Disney Channel, including the immensely popular ?Lost? and ?Desperate Housewives.?
The new iPod combines all of the features that have made the iPod one of the best music players in the world with new features such as the ability to view video content on a larger stunning color display.
The new iPod features Apple?s innovative Click Wheel for precise, one-handed navigation and the portable design is ideal for putting music, Podcasts, photos, audiobooks, home movies, music videos and popular television shows in a pocket for on-the-go viewing. iPod users can also watch their video content and slideshows of their photos on a television via optional Apple accessories.
Featuring integration with the iTunes Music Store and the iTunes digital music jukebox, iPod features Apple?s patent pending Auto-Sync technology that automatically downloads digital music, Podcasts, photos, audiobooks, home movies, music videos and popular television shows onto the iPod and keeps them up-to-date whenever the iPod is plugged into a Mac or Windows computer using USB 2.0. The 30GB model features up to 14 hours of battery life for music playback and the 60GB model features up to 20 hours of battery life for music playback.*
Pricing & Availability
The new iPods will begin shipping next week for a suggested retail price of $299 (US) for the 30GB model and $399 (US) for the 60GB model through the Apple Store, Apple?s retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers. All iPod models include earbud headphones, USB 2.0 cable, case, dock insert and a CD with iTunes for Mac and Windows computers.
Optional accessories designed for the new iPod include: Universal Dock for $39 (US), giving users easy access to a USB port for syncing, IR support to work with the Apple Remote and a variable line out and S-video connections for integration within the living room; Apple Remote for $29 (US), providing wireless integration to the Universal Dock and quick and easy access to controls from across the room; Apple iPod AV cable for $19 (US), enabling television viewing of video content in full-screen; the iPod Camera Connector for $29 (US); and Apple Socks for $29 (US) providing six vibrant color socks to dress up and protect your iPod.
iPod requires a Mac with a USB 2.0 and Mac OS X version 10.3.9 or later and iTunes 6; or a Windows PC with a USB 2.0 port and Windows 2000, XP Home or Professional (SP2) and iTunes 6. [ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]
Overall, I like this new iPod (I'd buy the 60 gig if I didn't already have a 4th gen 40 gig), but yes I do think it looks too wide and therefore rather odd. It is, in fact, the same width as the outgoing models.
I probably won't see an iPod that can record audio until I'm out of law school. I was hoping I would be able to record lectures at URI. That didn't happen. I guess I won't be able to do that for law school either. Seriously... this is the biggest no-duh on the iPod I can think of.
WTF are you talking about. Griffin makes a iTalk thing that plugs into an iPod and allows you to record. It's not stereo, but it is good enough for lectures.
I saw on the tech specs page that it can record stereo 44.1 KHz and mono 22.05 KHz. Does this mean that it can record audio?
Before the iPods were locked in firmware to quite a low quality recording, it looks like Apple may have changed this is all. It will still require the appropriate attachment.
And it's useless with my 2 year old iMac G4! (no FireWire, iMac dosen't have USB 2.0)
I'd suggest your first sync to it be an overnight job. By the time you wake up it'll certainly be done. Any subsequent syncs won't take as long assuming you don't transfer your entire library or a lot of songs/videos each time.
Is it true that the new iPod is not compatible iwth iTrip?... also will we be expecting any new iPods in the next year or so... i want to know if this one is worth buying.
Anything that uses the 3G & 4G iPod's remote connector will not work with these iPods, including iTrip. Apple alienated a hell of a lot of accessories with this revision.
How does stereo recording work? It's not like playing stereo sounds where you have two speakers. Wouldn't you need two mics at different places to record stereo (and have a stereo effect rather than a duplicate of mono for both channels)?
How does stereo recording work? It's not like playing stereo sounds where you have two speakers. Wouldn't you need two mics at different places to record stereo (and have a stereo effect rather than a duplicate of mono for both channels)?
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I don't get how that is a big deal.
And it's useless with my 2 year old iMac G4! (no FireWire, iMac dosen't have USB 2.0)
As for playing/watching videos on a small screen, why not buy the AV Cable and use a TV?
"Plays video or photo slideshows on TV via the optional Dock"
"Use the iPod AV Cable to connect your iPod to a television ? either directly or via the Universal Dock."
Originally posted by dirk gently
did anyone catch the specs on the video supported?
768kb for h.264 vs 2.5mb mpeg4 (at a higer res... 480x480??) the cpu must crap out with h.264 decoding.
That is interesting. Surely, despite how good H.264 is, 2.5 Mbit MPEG4 is going to look better than 768 kbit H.264?
Originally posted by dirk gently
I don't know why apple didn't go all out and make something that would compete with the PSP. Is this aimed at the same people who want to watch low-res/small screen content on their cell phones? Music videos?...whats the point?
Originally posted by iPoster
Video on a 2.5 inch screen?
I don't get how that is a big deal.
You guys have got the wrong idea. This is a music device that happens to play videos too. With the iPod, Music playing is the primary feature, playing videos secondary. With the PSP, motion video is the primary function, but it happens to play music too. Maybe in the future we'll see an iPod whose primary function is video.
Originally posted by iShawn
I saw the mockups and I liked the wide-screened ones
I liked them too, but one problem is that you have to use them in the horizontal orientation, with the click wheel to the side of the screen. This makes it harder to use with one hand.
What would be cool is if such an iPod had a built-in orientation detector, and rotated the image on the display according to whether you were holding the iPod horizontal or vertical. The symbols (Play/Pause, Skip, etc.) for the buttons on the click wheel could be generated by L.E.D.s so that their positions could also be changed.
Originally posted by iPoster
And it's useless with my 2 year old iMac G4! (no FireWire, iMac dosen't have USB 2.0)
Yes, the loss of FireWire is extremely annoying and disappointing. I could almost understand when they stopped supplying the FireWire cable as standard, but removing support for FireWire (which Apple developed) altogether is a great shame.
It looks like a fine upgrade to me.
Originally posted by AppleInsider
True to previous AppleInsider reports and expectations, Apple today officially introduced a new iPod, featuring a 2.5-inch color screen which can display album artwork and photos, and play video including music videos, video Podcasts, home movies and television shows.
The new iPod holds up to 15,000 songs, 25,000 photos or over 150 hours of video and is available in a 30GB model for $299 and a 60GB model for $399, with both models available in stunning white or black designs.
?The new iPod is the best music player ever?it's 30 percent thinner and has 50 percent more storage than its predecessor?yet it sells for the same price and plays stunning video on its 2.5-inch color screen,? said Steve Jobs, Apple?s CEO. ?Because millions of people around the world will buy this new iPod to play music, it will quickly become the most popular portable video player in history.?
The new iPod plays music, audiobooks, audio Podcasts, video Podcasts, home movies, music videos and popular television shows like ?Lost? and ?Desperate Housewives.?
The combination of iPod and iTunes 6 now provides customers with a seamless experience for buying, managing and playing video as well as audio content, including over 2,000 music videos, six short films from the Academy-Award winning Pixar Animation Studios, and five television shows from ABC and Disney Channel, including the immensely popular ?Lost? and ?Desperate Housewives.?
The new iPod combines all of the features that have made the iPod one of the best music players in the world with new features such as the ability to view video content on a larger stunning color display.
The new iPod features Apple?s innovative Click Wheel for precise, one-handed navigation and the portable design is ideal for putting music, Podcasts, photos, audiobooks, home movies, music videos and popular television shows in a pocket for on-the-go viewing. iPod users can also watch their video content and slideshows of their photos on a television via optional Apple accessories.
Featuring integration with the iTunes Music Store and the iTunes digital music jukebox, iPod features Apple?s patent pending Auto-Sync technology that automatically downloads digital music, Podcasts, photos, audiobooks, home movies, music videos and popular television shows onto the iPod and keeps them up-to-date whenever the iPod is plugged into a Mac or Windows computer using USB 2.0. The 30GB model features up to 14 hours of battery life for music playback and the 60GB model features up to 20 hours of battery life for music playback.*
Pricing & Availability
The new iPods will begin shipping next week for a suggested retail price of $299 (US) for the 30GB model and $399 (US) for the 60GB model through the Apple Store, Apple?s retail stores and Apple Authorized Resellers. All iPod models include earbud headphones, USB 2.0 cable, case, dock insert and a CD with iTunes for Mac and Windows computers.
Optional accessories designed for the new iPod include: Universal Dock for $39 (US), giving users easy access to a USB port for syncing, IR support to work with the Apple Remote and a variable line out and S-video connections for integration within the living room; Apple Remote for $29 (US), providing wireless integration to the Universal Dock and quick and easy access to controls from across the room; Apple iPod AV cable for $19 (US), enabling television viewing of video content in full-screen; the iPod Camera Connector for $29 (US); and Apple Socks for $29 (US) providing six vibrant color socks to dress up and protect your iPod.
iPod requires a Mac with a USB 2.0 and Mac OS X version 10.3.9 or later and iTunes 6; or a Windows PC with a USB 2.0 port and Windows 2000, XP Home or Professional (SP2) and iTunes 6.
[ View this article at AppleInsider.com ]
nice...
Originally posted by capiendo
i checked out the specs and there's no firewire support! THERE'S NO FIREWIRE! AHHHH!!!
the reason... firewire cost apple soooo much more money than USB, and it seemed i guess that the deamnd for firewire was low... im fine with it.
Originally posted by MacCrazy
This iPod looks really wide
Overall, I like this new iPod (I'd buy the 60 gig if I didn't already have a 4th gen 40 gig), but yes I do think it looks too wide and therefore rather odd. It is, in fact, the same width as the outgoing models.
Originally posted by Aquatic
Yeah the no firewire business is fucked up.
Video...pff.
CAN IT RECORD!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????
OH. MY. GOD.
I probably won't see an iPod that can record audio until I'm out of law school. I was hoping I would be able to record lectures at URI. That didn't happen. I guess I won't be able to do that for law school either. Seriously... this is the biggest no-duh on the iPod I can think of.
WTF are you talking about. Griffin makes a iTalk thing that plugs into an iPod and allows you to record. It's not stereo, but it is good enough for lectures.
Originally posted by bizdizzle
I saw on the tech specs page that it can record stereo 44.1 KHz and mono 22.05 KHz. Does this mean that it can record audio?
Before the iPods were locked in firmware to quite a low quality recording, it looks like Apple may have changed this is all. It will still require the appropriate attachment.
Originally posted by iPoster
Video on a 2.5 inch screen?
I don't get how that is a big deal.
The agreement with the content providers is the big deal.
And it's useless with my 2 year old iMac G4! (no FireWire, iMac dosen't have USB 2.0)
That is certainly inconvenient. But 'useless' seems a little strong. It will certainly work with your iMac, albeit not as quickly as you'd like.
Edit: formatting
Originally posted by iPoster
And it's useless with my 2 year old iMac G4! (no FireWire, iMac dosen't have USB 2.0)
I'd suggest your first sync to it be an overnight job. By the time you wake up it'll certainly be done. Any subsequent syncs won't take as long assuming you don't transfer your entire library or a lot of songs/videos each time.
How does stereo recording work? It's not like playing stereo sounds where you have two speakers. Wouldn't you need two mics at different places to record stereo (and have a stereo effect rather than a duplicate of mono for both channels)?
I have a Sony mic that outputs stereo.
Most PC people don't have Firewire. But all current PC's have USB 2.
Apple is able to save money and space by excluding the Firewire port. And it serves the majority market that uses the iPod.
That is a bit unfortunate for those with old Mac's that don't have USB 2. But too Apple is a business.