You know, upon review, it is possible that Apple made two different remotes. The remote available on Apple's Store lists it as compatible with 2005 products with IR ports; then it goes on to show the iPods it is compatible with. Now, it could just be an internal politics thing on the web store, or it could be there are two identical remotes one that is BT on that is IR. But why would they do that? Sounds inconvenient for those that have both products. Also, think of all the folks that will lose their iMac remote and buy the IR remote as a replacement mistakenly.
I'm not sure I buy the idea of the CCD as a remote receptor. I suppose it would work (all CCDs are inherently IR sensitive, though they usually have IR filters in front of them) but also note that CCDs aren't quite so much an always on technology that CMOS image capture devices are. You could likely fake it out with a flashlight or whatever since a CCD doesn't differentiate between visible light and IR.
Once the Mac Mini goes to Intel... I wonder if we'll still see a built in iSight camera on it. I imagine a lot of people using the mini in their entertainment center... imagine grandma seeing her grandkids on the TV and talking to them like they were in the room (no computer really seen). I think simple video-conferencing will be integrated into FrontRow.
Once the Mac Mini goes to Intel... I wonder if we'll still see a built in iSight camera on it.
Hmm, would that work? The camera on the iMac is right at viewing level because of how you look at the display. Where's the viewing angle with respect to the mini box? More likely, the camera will be integrated into their displays.
Hmm, would that work? The camera on the iMac is right at viewing level because of how you look at the display. Where's the viewing angle with respect to the mini box? More likely, the camera will be integrated into their displays.
If people are using the mini with their TVs (like I would be) I wouldn't have use the displays at all. However, if the mini is sitting below my TV in/on the entertainment center, it wouldn't be at a bad level.
Just a thought, but simple video conferencing from your TV would be another advantage for Apple... another reason to buy.
Has anyone else noticed that the iMac doesn't have a TV tuner? I guess that's ok if you're just going to hook it up to a TV anyway, but if you're planning to watch TV on the iMac itself, that could be problematic (and yes, I know that you can just buy an external one, but it wouldn't be controlled through FrontRow, which is the charm of it for me)
You know, upon review, it is possible that Apple made two different remotes. The remote available on Apple's Store lists it as compatible with 2005 products with IR ports; then it goes on to show the iPods it is compatible with. Now, it could just be an internal politics thing on the web store, or it could be there are two identical remotes one that is BT on that is IR. But why would they do that? Sounds inconvenient for those that have both products. Also, think of all the folks that will lose their iMac remote and buy the IR remote as a replacement mistakenly.
I'm not sure I buy the idea of the CCD as a remote receptor. I suppose it would work (all CCDs are inherently IR sensitive, though they usually have IR filters in front of them) but also note that CCDs aren't quite so much an always on technology that CMOS image capture devices are. You could likely fake it out with a flashlight or whatever since a CCD doesn't differentiate between visible light and IR.
The Apple Remote only works with iPods through the new Universal iPod Dock. I'm sure, in fact positive, there is only one remote that works through IR.
Granted, I worded that ambiguously. The Apple Remote works through IR for the iPods through the optional Dock. I'm just at a loss as to where the IR port is on the iMac (it's got to be line of sight) for it's remote, and I don't remember Jobs ever mentioning it was BT... so I'm wondering where everyone got the idea that the iMac remote was Bluetooth, but at the same time Apple doesn't list anything explicit as to the nature of the remote for the iMac.
The Mini will be one of the first machines to go Intel so that's when we will see Apple's living room intiative. I think the iMac is a great update; I watch DVD's on our home iMac all the time, its in a different room to the TV and its a different experience.
Photobooth is a bit of fun for ten minutes; no one hurt..
The iPod initiative is VERY interesting. The 320 x 240 size has occured for a number of practical reasons but in true Apple style those practicalities have been turned around into a whole new ball game. They have overnight created a new little video ecosystem that I can see become very appealing for a number of user and providers, the pr0n producers are going to be all over this like a... (supply your own smutty metaphor)
On the very same day the amount of HiDef content in the QT trailers section has exploded and its clear that most trailers will now be available in an HD version.
Interesting two-prong attack, and I don't think we have seen anything yet.
Front Row will be launched as part of iLife '06 in January. It's a natural extension of the iLife suite and a great value add to get people to pony up another $99 for the ugrade.
what could pr0n mean? I have no idea... no idea... wait... oh yeah...
is it
PORNOGRAPHY !!?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?
They wouldn't want to throw an iSight into the Cinema displays, would they? Would that put off some big money customers, or even themselves? Front Row in a Mac Mini? It would certainly make a digital hub? Year of HD? Questions?
Bluetooth would eat batteries at an unbelievable rate compared to an IR remote. Some IR remotes can last a couple years on a pair of AAA.
But if it is IR and working off the built in iSight's CCD, how is the camera shared between apps? Currently, it only works with one app at a time. Does that mean you can't be using the iSight and the remote at the same time?
Well that answers my question! It also looks like its intended to be effectively a sealed unit, the memory goes in a door on the bottom edge of the unit, instead of taking the back off like the original iMac G5. Now we need an engineers manual to see how you take the thing apart!
I'M SO EXCITED TO SEE THE MECHANISM WITH THE BUILT-IN iSIGHTS FOR THE iBOOKS AND POWERBOOKS!!!!!
Anyways i think that apple will make like an airport express for front row and it will definitely have TV compatibility(wasn't there an article speculating this-i can't remember). That would be perfect!!!! So then i could actually watch my movies/bought tv shows/music videos/vidcasts/ and listen to my music/podcasts and veiw my photos all from my livingroom!!!!! WOW that would be amazing!!!! And then for $500 dollars you could get that same funcionality and get Mac OS X and have all of its functionality, but there is something nice to the simplicity of Front Row w/o all of mac os x
If apple weren't a business and didn't need to make money maybe they would let us use that airport express as like a montior for our computers and have BT built-in to the airport express so u could use it with their wireless mouse and keyboard-if any of that would be possible-kinda like a wireless second monitor but then mac mini would lose lots of business so thats apple's choice
I think there is a good chance that we'll see the integrated iSight appear in revised versions of the Cinema Displays...
I disagree. Many Pro users will have multi-display setups, and if that's the case you wouldn't want to pay extra to have extra, useless cameras. I think the laptops will get integrated iSight and it makes sense for the iMac as it already only has one, fixed screen, but I doubt we'll see it for the cinema displays etc, unless its an add-on.
Well that answers my question! It also looks like its intended to be effectively a sealed unit, the memory goes in a door on the bottom edge of the unit, instead of taking the back off like the original iMac G5. Now we need an engineers manual to see how you take the thing apart!
Yes the manual does not mention anything about opening the unit as it did with the revision A and B's so I guess they do not intend to have the user open it except for the memory panel.
I disagree. Many Pro users will have multi-display setups, and if that's the case you wouldn't want to pay extra to have extra, useless cameras. I think the laptops will get integrated iSight and it makes sense for the iMac as it already only has one, fixed screen, but I doubt we'll see it for the cinema displays etc, unless its an add-on.
What if they do not raise the price at all for the feature. The iMac had many many features added but the price did not go up. I think Apple just really wants to have there iChat and Video confrencing become more mainstream (it is one of the many things that sets it apart from windows) so they are willing to include iSight with some products.
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I'm not sure I buy the idea of the CCD as a remote receptor. I suppose it would work (all CCDs are inherently IR sensitive, though they usually have IR filters in front of them) but also note that CCDs aren't quite so much an always on technology that CMOS image capture devices are. You could likely fake it out with a flashlight or whatever since a CCD doesn't differentiate between visible light and IR.
Originally posted by macmike
Once the Mac Mini goes to Intel... I wonder if we'll still see a built in iSight camera on it.
Hmm, would that work? The camera on the iMac is right at viewing level because of how you look at the display. Where's the viewing angle with respect to the mini box? More likely, the camera will be integrated into their displays.
Originally posted by BRussell
Hmm, would that work? The camera on the iMac is right at viewing level because of how you look at the display. Where's the viewing angle with respect to the mini box? More likely, the camera will be integrated into their displays.
If people are using the mini with their TVs (like I would be) I wouldn't have use the displays at all. However, if the mini is sitting below my TV in/on the entertainment center, it wouldn't be at a bad level.
Just a thought, but simple video conferencing from your TV would be another advantage for Apple... another reason to buy.
Originally posted by ChevalierMalFet
You know, upon review, it is possible that Apple made two different remotes. The remote available on Apple's Store lists it as compatible with 2005 products with IR ports; then it goes on to show the iPods it is compatible with. Now, it could just be an internal politics thing on the web store, or it could be there are two identical remotes one that is BT on that is IR. But why would they do that? Sounds inconvenient for those that have both products. Also, think of all the folks that will lose their iMac remote and buy the IR remote as a replacement mistakenly.
I'm not sure I buy the idea of the CCD as a remote receptor. I suppose it would work (all CCDs are inherently IR sensitive, though they usually have IR filters in front of them) but also note that CCDs aren't quite so much an always on technology that CMOS image capture devices are. You could likely fake it out with a flashlight or whatever since a CCD doesn't differentiate between visible light and IR.
The Apple Remote only works with iPods through the new Universal iPod Dock. I'm sure, in fact positive, there is only one remote that works through IR.
Originally posted by octane
Won't sharing (via bonjour) in iPhoto and iTunes accomplish that already?
hopefully it will, but there was no mention of that during the presentation. I have to imagine that it would be allowed.
Photobooth is a bit of fun for ten minutes; no one hurt..
The iPod initiative is VERY interesting. The 320 x 240 size has occured for a number of practical reasons but in true Apple style those practicalities have been turned around into a whole new ball game. They have overnight created a new little video ecosystem that I can see become very appealing for a number of user and providers, the pr0n producers are going to be all over this like a... (supply your own smutty metaphor)
On the very same day the amount of HiDef content in the QT trailers section has exploded and its clear that most trailers will now be available in an HD version.
Interesting two-prong attack, and I don't think we have seen anything yet.
is it
PORNOGRAPHY !!?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?
They wouldn't want to throw an iSight into the Cinema displays, would they? Would that put off some big money customers, or even themselves? Front Row in a Mac Mini? It would certainly make a digital hub? Year of HD? Questions?
Bluetooth would eat batteries at an unbelievable rate compared to an IR remote. Some IR remotes can last a couple years on a pair of AAA.
But if it is IR and working off the built in iSight's CCD, how is the camera shared between apps? Currently, it only works with one app at a time. Does that mean you can't be using the iSight and the remote at the same time?
Hmmm... i can't wait to get all the details.
The Remote is IR and uses a reciever built into the apple logo on the front. You can read it yourself in the new manual.
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/iMa...sers_Guide.pdf
Anyways i think that apple will make like an airport express for front row and it will definitely have TV compatibility(wasn't there an article speculating this-i can't remember). That would be perfect!!!! So then i could actually watch my movies/bought tv shows/music videos/vidcasts/ and listen to my music/podcasts and veiw my photos all from my livingroom!!!!! WOW that would be amazing!!!! And then for $500 dollars you could get that same funcionality and get Mac OS X and have all of its functionality, but there is something nice to the simplicity of Front Row w/o all of mac os x
If apple weren't a business and didn't need to make money maybe they would let us use that airport express as like a montior for our computers and have BT built-in to the airport express so u could use it with their wireless mouse and keyboard-if any of that would be possible-kinda like a wireless second monitor but then mac mini would lose lots of business so thats apple's choice
Originally posted by Messiah
I think there is a good chance that we'll see the integrated iSight appear in revised versions of the Cinema Displays...
I disagree. Many Pro users will have multi-display setups, and if that's the case you wouldn't want to pay extra to have extra, useless cameras. I think the laptops will get integrated iSight and it makes sense for the iMac as it already only has one, fixed screen, but I doubt we'll see it for the cinema displays etc, unless its an add-on.
Originally posted by ajprice
Well that answers my question! It also looks like its intended to be effectively a sealed unit, the memory goes in a door on the bottom edge of the unit, instead of taking the back off like the original iMac G5. Now we need an engineers manual to see how you take the thing apart!
Yes the manual does not mention anything about opening the unit as it did with the revision A and B's so I guess they do not intend to have the user open it except for the memory panel.
Originally posted by Xool
I disagree. Many Pro users will have multi-display setups, and if that's the case you wouldn't want to pay extra to have extra, useless cameras. I think the laptops will get integrated iSight and it makes sense for the iMac as it already only has one, fixed screen, but I doubt we'll see it for the cinema displays etc, unless its an add-on.
What if they do not raise the price at all for the feature. The iMac had many many features added but the price did not go up. I think Apple just really wants to have there iChat and Video confrencing become more mainstream (it is one of the many things that sets it apart from windows) so they are willing to include iSight with some products.