New Finder idea
Now, I know people have discussed this to death... and there are those who think Finder is great, and there are those who use abbreviations such as FTFF* to express their feelings about Finder.
I was reading a thread about Finder over here, and I really liked the new Finder mockup some guy named moonmonkey did. It has all I want from the new Finder, save for tabs.
What do you guys think should be fixed in the new Finder, and what do you guys think this guy got right, and what wrong?
*Fix The F-cking Finder.
I was reading a thread about Finder over here, and I really liked the new Finder mockup some guy named moonmonkey did. It has all I want from the new Finder, save for tabs.
What do you guys think should be fixed in the new Finder, and what do you guys think this guy got right, and what wrong?
*Fix The F-cking Finder.
Comments
Wrong: The layout. The Spotlight criteria interface still looks like Tiger's broken Spotlight criteria interface (not user-friendly).
This criteria interface we see in the mockup (and the one we have in Tiger today in the Finder) should be an advanced option. Apple should simplify the way a user can sort through document metadata.
- "New Folder" doesn't appear in the Contextual Menu unless you are able to click in white space. If the current column has no white space because it has a lot of items in in, you are SOL.
- Can't Copy the name of a Finder Item with the Contextual Menu. Click the name to make it editable, and then try to right-click it to copy it. Hah-hah!!!
None of this Finder bullshit like broken FTP and slow iDisk mounts (ever dragged an iDisk folder around in the Finder?).
Network plugins + keychain = seamless networking.
Originally posted by 1337_5L4Xx0R
I'd like to see GnomeVFS-style network abstraction. The folder in your home that says "Work" could be a remote NFS volume, an SFTP server, etc. You don't care, because you can open it and edit (double-click) documents in it as if it were a local folder.
None of this Finder bullshit like broken FTP and slow iDisk mounts (ever dragged an iDisk folder around in the Finder?).
Network plugins + keychain = seamless networking.
Surely it shouldn't *look* like a local folder...what if the network is down or if you're off the network for some reason or another...the folder would simply disappear? or become unopenable? This ain't cool and would confuse many.
The concept of *knowing* what is *your* stuff and what isn't is very powerful.
Spotlight needs heavy improvement but I like where it's going. That mockup is also in the right direction.
Tabs. Should be there, as an option. Off by default. Cause I would friggin love them, and I'm sure plenty of other people would too.
Originally posted by kim kap sol
Surely it shouldn't *look* like a local folder...what if the network is down or if you're off the network for some reason or another...the folder would simply disappear? or become unopenable? This ain't cool and would confuse many.
The concept of *knowing* what is *your* stuff and what isn't is very powerful.
Well presumably the icon for a remote folder would be different, and yes the icon would be pervasive, connecting or dying trying when double-clicked. I prefer that idea to launching an FTP app, downloading a file, editing it, and uploading it.
The closest I can get on a mac is found in BBedit's open via ftp option.
Originally posted by Aquatic
Yeah I agree that idea is...bad and un-Apple.
Spotlight needs heavy improvement but I like where it's going. That mockup is also in the right direction.
Tabs. Should be there, as an option. Off by default. Cause I would friggin love them, and I'm sure plenty of other people would too.
Gosh, I need tabs so bad.
PathFinder4 has tabs. And does a lot more!
When I have a selection hilighted and hit the [delete} key they should delete or move to trash...really annoying when I have to grab the mouse and drag (or right-click->move to trash) to do that.
Originally posted by a_greer
Bad Finder:
When I have a selection hilighted and hit the [delete} key they should delete or move to trash...really annoying when I have to grab the mouse and drag (or right-click->move to trash) to do that.
Um. Cmd-Backspace?
Originally posted by Chucker
Um. Cmd-Backspace?
Shhh, that's too easy.
Originally posted by Placebo
Shhh, that's too easy.
Seems so.
Originally posted by Chucker
Um. Cmd-Backspace?
ummm...using Windows, KDE, Gnome and others, [del] deletes...what is the point of having a delete key if you cannot delete with it...
cmd+backspace works, thanks, but [del] shouild work, I defy you to give me one good reason why [del] should not move selected item(s) to trash...
Originally posted by a_greer
I defy you to give me one good reason why [del] should not move selected item(s) to trash...
Maybe because all other keyboard shortcuts require the command* key as well?
*) Guess why it's named that?
Originally posted by a_greer
cmd+backspace works, thanks, but [del] shouild work, I defy you to give me one good reason why [del] should not move selected item(s) to trash...
Because it's too easy to hit Delete by mistake, when moving the keyboard, etc., and the results (deleting a file(s) and not knowing it) are too risky. Requiring two keys prevents that.
However, Delete does delete in iTunes, iPhoto, Safari Bookmarks, etc. without warning. Interesting. I suppose the reasoning is that those are aliases and can always be recreated, or Undo used.
Originally posted by lundy
Because it's too easy to hit Delete by mistake, when moving the keyboard, etc., and the results (deleting a file(s) and not knowing it) are too risky. Requiring two keys prevents that.
well, the trash can is the fail-safe for that...ooops! I needed that, Oh, OK just restore from trash.
And for the record, other OSs warn you the first time you use [del] that "the item(s) will be moved to trash/recycle bin" and have a "dont warn me again" check box to disable the warning if you wish.
Regards,
durandal