This new Powerbook is sweet! I still gotta wait, but now it's got everthing I want. My iBook will last me the summer, but I'll be upgrading to a new Powerbook after that, and it's good enough now and can only get better! Way to go Apple!
Some lucky folks at macsonly paid a visit to their local Apple store to try out the new 800. They had some very nice things to say, and the beauty and clarity of the screen was at the top of the list (maybe tied with the DVI input). They haven't run any speed tests yet. It's only been one day, after all. But it looks good for the new Powerbook seekers in this crowd.
As some on these pages will know, I've been pining for ADC out and higher screen resolution as my MAJOR prereqs before I moved from Pismo to G4 PowerBook. Now I may have to make the move... My experience with OSX has been so positive, even Office v.X that I cannot see not going along. Now I can even play with a PowerBook at home on a Cinema display! <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
I'm typing on a new PowerBook G4 800 MHz right now. The first thing you notice is the screen of course. It's very good for a laptop unit.
The second thing I noticed was the pad on the bottom. There's a patch underneath the base where I think the processor would be, so it's probably a heatsink...
And related to that, the machine either runs a lot cooler than the old PowerBook G4 or this PowerBook is running cooler because it's right next to the door (it's cool outside...) It's warm to the touch, not hot to the touch.
Also, I think the feet stick out a little more, so that lets air pass underneath the machine.
The silver trim looks darker...but maybe that's just me.
The Darwin kernel is actually 'older' than what comes with the 10.1.4 update.
[code][localhost:~] apple% uname -a
Darwin localhost 5.3.2 Darwin Kernel Version 5.3.2: Wed Apr 17 15:44:35 PDT 2002; root:xnu/xnu-201.37.5.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc</pre><hr></blockquote>
The build of OS X is quite a bit newer though.
[code][localhost:~] apple% sw_vers
ProductName: Mac OS X
ProductVersion: 10.1.4
BuildVersion: 5R60</pre><hr></blockquote>
distributed.net performance was disappointing considering an iMac gets 8200 kkeys/s in RC5 and as many knodes/s in OGR.
[code][May 02 03:14:28 UTC] Automatic processor type detection found
a PowerPC 7450 (G4) processor.
[May 02 03:14:28 UTC] RC5: using core #5 (crunch-vec-7450).
[May 02 03:14:47 UTC] RC5: Benchmark for core #5 (crunch-vec-7450)
No, I was playing with the PowerBook at the Apple Store. Actually, the distributed.net client benchmark may have been messed up because someone else posted higher scores. I think should have restarted the computer and made sure classic and the demo app wasn't running.
<strong>No, I was playing with the PowerBook at the Apple Store. Actually, the distributed.net client benchmark may have been messed up because someone else posted higher scores. I think should have restarted the computer and made sure classic and the demo app wasn't running.</strong><hr></blockquote>
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Do you think that the identification of the chip as a 7450 is valid?
OK, I ordered an 800 today with the 60G drive, Airport basestation, and extra battery. Oops, just realized I forgot to add the DVI adaptor to the order.
<strong>Just 1 question, what the hell is a pismo????
excuse the ignorant bastard in australia, is it some pc piece of crap or an older mac,
please inlighten me</strong><hr></blockquote>
The last of the REAL Powerbooks
You know, the Armani series. Black, sleek and build like Batman. And the last to have the incredible fast PentiumII destroying G3 at 400 and 500 Mhz :eek:
<strong>I'm typing on a new PowerBook G4 800 MHz right now. The first thing you notice is the screen of course. It's very good for a laptop unit.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Ooh, thank you for the report, Eugene. How did the display compare with that in the iBook for brightness and sharpness?
Ooh, thank you for the report, Eugene. How did the display compare with that in the iBook for brightness and sharpness?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I saw the new Ti's yesterday and they seemed brighter and sharper than the old Ti's, but it wasn't right next to an iBook and I didn't have my iBoom so I can't really compare. Maybe Eugene can.
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The second thing I noticed was the pad on the bottom. There's a patch underneath the base where I think the processor would be, so it's probably a heatsink...
And related to that, the machine either runs a lot cooler than the old PowerBook G4 or this PowerBook is running cooler because it's right next to the door (it's cool outside...) It's warm to the touch, not hot to the touch.
Also, I think the feet stick out a little more, so that lets air pass underneath the machine.
The silver trim looks darker...but maybe that's just me.
The Darwin kernel is actually 'older' than what comes with the 10.1.4 update.
[code][localhost:~] apple% uname -a
Darwin localhost 5.3.2 Darwin Kernel Version 5.3.2: Wed Apr 17 15:44:35 PDT 2002; root:xnu/xnu-201.37.5.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc</pre><hr></blockquote>
The build of OS X is quite a bit newer though.
[code][localhost:~] apple% sw_vers
ProductName: Mac OS X
ProductVersion: 10.1.4
BuildVersion: 5R60</pre><hr></blockquote>
distributed.net performance was disappointing considering an iMac gets 8200 kkeys/s in RC5 and as many knodes/s in OGR.
[code][May 02 03:14:28 UTC] Automatic processor type detection found
a PowerPC 7450 (G4) processor.
[May 02 03:14:28 UTC] RC5: using core #5 (crunch-vec-7450).
[May 02 03:14:47 UTC] RC5: Benchmark for core #5 (crunch-vec-7450)
0.00:00:16.14 [6,797,981 keys/sec]
[May 02 03:14:47 UTC] OGR: using core #2 (GARSP 5.13 PPC-vector).
[May 02 03:15:06 UTC] OGR: Benchmark for core #2 (GARSP 5.13 PPC-vector)
0.00:00:16.72 [6,783,649 nodes/sec]</pre><hr></blockquote>
I'm not sure where this performance hit is coming from. It might be a d.net setting that I'm missing, but I don't think so.
[ 05-01-2002: Message edited by: Eugene ]
[ 05-01-2002: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>
<strong>No, I was playing with the PowerBook at the Apple Store. Actually, the distributed.net client benchmark may have been messed up because someone else posted higher scores. I think should have restarted the computer and made sure classic and the demo app wasn't running.</strong><hr></blockquote>
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Do you think that the identification of the chip as a 7450 is valid?
<img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
<strong>distributed.net performance was disappointing considering an iMac gets 8200 kkeys/s in RC5 and as many knodes/s in OGR.
[code][May 02 03:14:28 UTC] Automatic processor type detection found
a PowerPC 7450 (G4) processor.
[May 02 03:14:28 UTC] RC5: using core #5 (crunch-vec-7450).
[May 02 03:14:47 UTC] RC5: Benchmark for core #5 (crunch-vec-7450)
0.00:00:16.14 [6,797,981 keys/sec]
[May 02 03:14:47 UTC] OGR: using core #2 (GARSP 5.13 PPC-vector).
[May 02 03:15:06 UTC] OGR: Benchmark for core #2 (GARSP 5.13 PPC-vector)
0.00:00:16.72 [6,783,649 nodes/sec]</pre><hr></blockquote>
</strong><hr></blockquote>
My older 667 Combo Drive:
[code][May 04 08:02:16 UTC] Automatic processor type detection found
a PowerPC 7450 (G4) processor.
[May 04 08:02:16 UTC] RC5: using core #5 (crunch-vec-7450).
[May 04 08:02:36 UTC] RC5: Benchmark for core #5 (crunch-vec-7450)
0.00:00:16.77 [6,423,379 keys/sec]
[May 04 08:02:36 UTC] OGR: using core #2 (GARSP 5.13 PPC-vector).
[May 04 08:02:54 UTC] OGR: Benchmark for core #2 (GARSP 5.13 PPC-vector)
0.00:00:16.17 [6,466,978 nodes/sec]
</pre><hr></blockquote>
i am thinking of getting new tibook - 667, cant afford 800,
is there a audio out hole so i can plug in some speakers to get th itunes thumbing
excuse the ignorant bastard in australia, is it some pc piece of crap or an older mac,
please inlighten me
<strong>Just 1 question, what the hell is a pismo????
excuse the ignorant bastard in australia, is it some pc piece of crap or an older mac,
please inlighten me</strong><hr></blockquote>
The last of the REAL Powerbooks
You know, the Armani series. Black, sleek and build like Batman. And the last to have the incredible fast PentiumII destroying G3 at 400 and 500 Mhz :eek:
<strong>
The last of the REAL Powerbooks
You know, the Armani series. Black, sleek and build like Batman.</strong><hr></blockquote>Too bad they weighed the same as the Batmobile
<strong>I'm typing on a new PowerBook G4 800 MHz right now. The first thing you notice is the screen of course. It's very good for a laptop unit.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Ooh, thank you for the report, Eugene. How did the display compare with that in the iBook for brightness and sharpness?
<strong>
Ooh, thank you for the report, Eugene. How did the display compare with that in the iBook for brightness and sharpness?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I saw the new Ti's yesterday and they seemed brighter and sharper than the old Ti's, but it wasn't right next to an iBook and I didn't have my iBoom so I can't really compare. Maybe Eugene can.