I doubt there will be many switches from Mac to Longhorn, do you think? I know a lot of people come to Mac because they don't have to screw with viri and such. Are we ever going to need to worry about that? I guess after all I could just turn off the Airport connection on the mac... when I don't need it. Most of the mac's use is recording. And I will be with Apple until they (Or I myself) die. Apple's music and video production has amazed me.
What makes you think just moving to Intel would make Mac OS X more vulnerable to viri? That's a function of the OS and its inherent security or lack thereof, NOT the hardware!
Of course, eventually, Mac OS X will probably get hit by something - I read yesterday that there is a trojan horse that targets the same unix kernal apple uses for X - and infects the Apache server - AND Apple has already released the patch to cover it. So, yes, we will, and really, are. But Apple has a much better track record in responding to this stuff than M$, and, by the way, generally ship their OS more locked down than the Evil Empire does.
What makes you think just moving to Intel would make Mac OS X more vulnerable to viri? That's a function of the OS and its inherent security or lack thereof, NOT the hardware!
Of course, eventually, Mac OS X will probably get hit by something - I read yesterday that there is a trojan horse that targets the same unix kernal apple uses for X - and infects the Apache server - AND Apple has already released the patch to cover it. So, yes, we will, and really, are. But Apple has a much better track record in responding to this stuff than M$, and, by the way, generally ship their OS more locked down than the Evil Empire does.
Leopard must be a feature release since Apple claimed the APIs are fixed. If that is right the OS people at Apple have had a lot of time to come up with new and/or improved features to woo the audience and press.
Perhaps an reintroduction/improving of Tigers most promising features, Widgets, Automator and Spotlight, could do the trick for the Apple-ignorant audience.
And right now it seems like bad tactics to have exported Garageband, iMovie et al to a seperate suite. It makes it harder to claim it is part of the OS. Could have made a VERY good selling point. Perhaps they should reinclude it into the OS for the 10.5 release only...
What makes you think just moving to Intel would make Mac OS X more vulnerable to viri? That's a function of the OS and its inherent security or lack thereof, NOT the hardware!
Of course, eventually, Mac OS X will probably get hit by something - I read yesterday that there is a trojan horse that targets the same unix kernal apple uses for X - and infects the Apache server - AND Apple has already released the patch to cover it. So, yes, we will, and really, are. But Apple has a much better track record in responding to this stuff than M$, and, by the way, generally ship their OS more locked down than the Evil Empire does.
I'm not positive about this, so if I'm fudging details, I'm sorry
PPC processors store executable code and data in separate places in memory, whereas Intel chips lump it all together. This means that Intel chips are more vulnerable to buffer overflows, which is one of the main entry points viruses use.
That said, I'm not the least bit concerned, because Apple seems to be making security a top priority.
Edit: Wow, I already replied to this thread without reading half of it... and replied to it again later... oh well
Yes. Vista and Longhorn are the same thing. The name was changed from Longhorn to Vista though so officially it's called "Windows Vista". My bad for the confusion.
Yes. Vista and Longhorn are the same thing. The name was changed from Longhorn to Vista though so officially it's called "Windows Vista". My bad for the confusion.
This is wrong. They are not the same thing at all.
I am confused. Is the argument since they are both windows releases they are the same? I guess I was saying that they are different in the same way that 10.3 and 10.4 are different. I also thought there was a great deal of new code. But, hey, I think its a semantics argument.
I am confused. Is the argument since they are both windows releases they are the same? I guess I was saying that they are different in the same way that 10.3 and 10.4 are different. I also thought there was a great deal of new code. But, hey, I think its a semantics argument.
Lets try to end your confusion. Longhorn is code name of the OS that Microsoft has been developing for years. As seen in the press release linked to above, the OFFICIAL name will be VISTA.
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Originally posted by iShawn
I doubt there will be many switches from Mac to Longhorn, do you think? I know a lot of people come to Mac because they don't have to screw with viri and such. Are we ever going to need to worry about that? I guess after all I could just turn off the Airport connection on the mac... when I don't need it. Most of the mac's use is recording. And I will be with Apple until they (Or I myself) die. Apple's music and video production has amazed me.
What makes you think just moving to Intel would make Mac OS X more vulnerable to viri? That's a function of the OS and its inherent security or lack thereof, NOT the hardware!
Of course, eventually, Mac OS X will probably get hit by something - I read yesterday that there is a trojan horse that targets the same unix kernal apple uses for X - and infects the Apache server - AND Apple has already released the patch to cover it. So, yes, we will, and really, are. But Apple has a much better track record in responding to this stuff than M$, and, by the way, generally ship their OS more locked down than the Evil Empire does.
Originally posted by rwahrens
What makes you think just moving to Intel would make Mac OS X more vulnerable to viri? That's a function of the OS and its inherent security or lack thereof, NOT the hardware!
Of course, eventually, Mac OS X will probably get hit by something - I read yesterday that there is a trojan horse that targets the same unix kernal apple uses for X - and infects the Apache server - AND Apple has already released the patch to cover it. So, yes, we will, and really, are. But Apple has a much better track record in responding to this stuff than M$, and, by the way, generally ship their OS more locked down than the Evil Empire does.
Good to know.
WWDC was in October as I recall...
If WWDC is in October again this year...there's no way Apple will get Leopard out around the same time as Longhorn.
I think we're looking at another special event or a really weird year as far as WWDC goes.
Originally posted by BriJQ84
Hold up a sec here.... Vista is slated for December 06' right?
WWDC was in October as I recall...
If WWDC is in October again this year...there's no way Apple will get Leopard out around the same time as Longhorn.
I think we're looking at another special event or a really weird year as far as WWDC goes.
WWDC has been in June the past few years.
Originally posted by BriJQ84
Hold up a sec here.... Vista is slated for December 06' right?
Vista is now slated for 08-31-2006.
Originally posted by FrenchMac
Vista is now slated for 08-31-2006.
Which means whatever Apple shows of at WWDC isnt gonna make it into Vista until at least SP1.
Nice.
But then again, Vista will have been on the market for ~6 months at the release time. Personally I think Apple has to go head on with MS for this one.
Leopard must be a feature release since Apple claimed the APIs are fixed. If that is right the OS people at Apple have had a lot of time to come up with new and/or improved features to woo the audience and press.
Perhaps an reintroduction/improving of Tigers most promising features, Widgets, Automator and Spotlight, could do the trick for the Apple-ignorant audience.
And right now it seems like bad tactics to have exported Garageband, iMovie et al to a seperate suite. It makes it harder to claim it is part of the OS. Could have made a VERY good selling point. Perhaps they should reinclude it into the OS for the 10.5 release only...
Originally posted by rwahrens
What makes you think just moving to Intel would make Mac OS X more vulnerable to viri? That's a function of the OS and its inherent security or lack thereof, NOT the hardware!
Of course, eventually, Mac OS X will probably get hit by something - I read yesterday that there is a trojan horse that targets the same unix kernal apple uses for X - and infects the Apache server - AND Apple has already released the patch to cover it. So, yes, we will, and really, are. But Apple has a much better track record in responding to this stuff than M$, and, by the way, generally ship their OS more locked down than the Evil Empire does.
I'm not positive about this, so if I'm fudging details, I'm sorry
PPC processors store executable code and data in separate places in memory, whereas Intel chips lump it all together. This means that Intel chips are more vulnerable to buffer overflows, which is one of the main entry points viruses use.
That said, I'm not the least bit concerned, because Apple seems to be making security a top priority.
Edit: Wow, I already replied to this thread without reading half of it... and replied to it again later... oh well
I'm confused...
Originally posted by BriJQ84
Yes. Vista and Longhorn are the same thing. The name was changed from Longhorn to Vista though so officially it's called "Windows Vista". My bad for the confusion.
This is wrong. They are not the same thing at all.
Originally posted by blue2kdave
This is wrong. They are not the same thing at all.
Microsoft disagrees with you.
Originally posted by Telomar
Microsoft disagrees with you.
Interesting. I didn't know this either, I just assumed they decided to change the name. Damn shame though:
You'll need Windows Media Player to view the video.
Oh well, should have seen that coming.
Windows Vista is the official name for the next version of Windows (and they ARE the same thing).
Originally posted by Anders
Explain, bitte.
I am confused. Is the argument since they are both windows releases they are the same? I guess I was saying that they are different in the same way that 10.3 and 10.4 are different. I also thought there was a great deal of new code. But, hey, I think its a semantics argument.
Just like the relationship between Puma and Mac OS X 10.1
Originally posted by blue2kdave
I am confused. Is the argument since they are both windows releases they are the same? I guess I was saying that they are different in the same way that 10.3 and 10.4 are different. I also thought there was a great deal of new code. But, hey, I think its a semantics argument.
Lets try to end your confusion. Longhorn is code name of the OS that Microsoft has been developing for years. As seen in the press release linked to above, the OFFICIAL name will be VISTA.
Probably so they can steal some more things from OS X
Rob