Power Mac 933 vs IMAC 800

no_friendsno_friends
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in Current Mac Hardware edited January 2014
Hi everyone,

This is my first post and I've been reading your posts avidly the last few weeks and I decided to enter the debate with this question.



I am considering purchasing a Power Mac 933 or IMAC 800. I will mostly be using it for web design to start, but I hope to develope my video skills as soon as poss. with FCP3 and After Effects.



Does the board know whether the IMAC can can cope with video/FCP3/After effects?? and will the only draw back between the two be rendering times??



The pros with the IMAC are that it comes with a screen and DVD-R and its less expensive, but lacks a bit of processor power.



The pros of the 933 are it has a large capacity and processor, but no monitor and its more expensive.





As far a I can see (excluding the above differences) the 933 has more levels of cache.



Will this make a major difference to video editing? or will it just be rendering times????



Any other adivce would be great. Anyone who owns either IMAC or Power Mac 933, if they could post how well there computer performs then that would be great.



Thanks guys. I hope you can help me ! <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 15
    pesipesi Posts: 424member
    at my last job, i used an old 450 and QS 733 for video. only really noticable difference speedwise was rendering.



    the iMac should be just fine for video. the main difference will be the amount of memory (FCP LOVES memory) and the size of the display (FCP LOVES screen real estate).
  • Reply 2 of 15
    opuscroakusopuscroakus Posts: 317member
    I was about ready to post almost the same question as NO_FRIENDS. Good points from pesi as you touched on my big concern, rendering. (Rendering on a G3 is BRUTAL!!!) Is a dual the way to go or is a 800 iMac adequate???
  • Reply 3 of 15
    prestonpreston Posts: 219member
    meh i use FCP3 on my ibook 600.



    g4 snobs
  • Reply 4 of 15
    defiantdefiant Posts: 4,876member
    [quote]Originally posted by preston:

    <strong>meh i use FCP3 on my ibook 600.



    g4 snobs</strong><hr></blockquote>



    youh crazyyy
  • Reply 5 of 15
    mount_my_floppymount_my_floppy Posts: 913member
    I would go with the 933 a dual 800 if you can find one though mainly because of the bus. The better machine you get now the more time before you last upgrade. That and the tower wont shaft you with just one sized monitor. No way could i do my webwork on 1024X768 much less any kind of graphic.



    My 2¢

    --Floppy
  • Reply 6 of 15
    jet powersjet powers Posts: 288member
    Superdrive is less valuable than you think. How many DVD's do you REALLY think you'll burn in the next year? Meanwhile, you get a handicapped CDRW which you will probably used WAY more frequently.



    Also, as your capabilities expand, your needs will expand. That 1440x900 (or whatever) screen looks pretty good now, but soon enough you'll want bigger and better.



    Maybe you'll want to add a special DV card into a PCI slot, or a better sound card to work with your burgeoning movie career. Or rendering times will increase as the complexity of your work increases. A proc upgrade might be in order.



    I think you see where I'm going with this. Get the Powermac.



    ting5
  • Reply 7 of 15
    no_friendsno_friends Posts: 18member
    Thanks guys for your replies,



    I think I will stick with getting a 933 and 17" monitor. I hope the prices come down a bit if Steves going to announce the new range of Power Macs at the next Expo?



    THe magazine adverts keep claiming lower prices, but when you check the web page its still the same.



    Can you watch the Expo live on the net anywhere??????
  • Reply 8 of 15
    mcqmcq Posts: 1,543member
    Apple has webcasts of its major Macworld Expos (NY and SF) online. They usually post them up on the Quicktime area of the web site. If you didn't see the recent MWNY keynote, you can watch a replay of it <a href="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/mwny02/"; target="_blank">here</a>.



    Many people have been rumoring of an updated PowerMac coming up soon, so if you can wait to see what comes out within the next month or two, that would probably be a good move.
  • Reply 9 of 15
    macubusmacubus Posts: 95member
    [quote]Originally posted by Defiant:

    <strong>



    youh crazyyy</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I use FCP on my B&W G3 400! It's still got some legs left!



    [ 08-05-2002: Message edited by: macubus ]</p>
  • Reply 10 of 15
    rbaldrbald Posts: 108member
    [quote]Originally posted by NO_FRIENDS:

    <strong>Hi everyone,

    This is my first post and I've been reading your posts avidly the last few weeks and I decided to enter the debate with this question.



    I am considering purchasing a Power Mac 933 or IMAC 800. I will mostly be using it for web design to start, but I hope to develope my video skills as soon as poss. with FCP3 and After Effects.



    Does the board know whether the IMAC can can cope with video/FCP3/After effects?? and will the only draw back between the two be rendering times??



    The pros with the IMAC are that it comes with a screen and DVD-R and its less expensive, but lacks a bit of processor power.



    The pros of the 933 are it has a large capacity and processor, but no monitor and its more expensive.





    As far a I can see (excluding the above differences) the 933 has more levels of cache.



    Will this make a major difference to video editing? or will it just be rendering times????



    Any other adivce would be great. Anyone who owns either IMAC or Power Mac 933, if they could post how well there computer performs then that would be great.



    Thanks guys. I hope you can help me ! <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

    Save yourself the aggrivation and buy yourself a windows pc! why would you want to spend all that money over 2 grand for the power mac, $1800 for the imac!! the power mac with 133mhz memory and a 133mhz bus or the imac with 100 mhz memory and a 100mhz bus!!! What a joke! You'd have to be an idiot!!

    <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
  • Reply 11 of 15
    xaqtlyxaqtly Posts: 450member
    [quote] Save yourself the aggrivation and buy yourself a windows pc! <hr></blockquote>



    Sorry, but isn't that an oxymoronic statement?



    Windows = aggravation.
  • Reply 12 of 15
    jimdadjimdad Posts: 209member
    [quote]Originally posted by Yet Another Registration:

    <strong>Superdrive is less valuable than you think. How many DVD's do you REALLY think you'll burn in the next year? Meanwhile, you get a handicapped CDRW which you will probably used WAY more frequently.



    Also, as your capabilities expand, your needs will expand. That 1440x900 (or whatever) screen looks pretty good now, but soon enough you'll want bigger and better.



    Maybe you'll want to add a special DV card into a PCI slot, or a better sound card to work with your burgeoning movie career. Or rendering times will increase as the complexity of your work increases. A proc upgrade might be in order.



    I think you see where I'm going with this. Get the Powermac.



    ting5</strong><hr></blockquote>



    YAr,

    I don't know about the lack of superdrive use. I didn't think I would use it but it is kind of handy for storage with the size of video projects I do. Also, in what way is the CD RW handicapped?
  • Reply 13 of 15
    jet powersjet powers Posts: 288member
    [quote]Originally posted by jimdad:

    <strong>



    YAr,

    I don't know about the lack of superdrive use. I didn't think I would use it but it is kind of handy for storage with the size of video projects I do. Also, in what way is the CD RW handicapped?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Yeah, I'll admit that it does make a handy storage medium if you are doing big projects. Should have pointed that out.



    The CDRW burns at a slower rate in the (4x?) Superdrive than in the (8x?) Combo. Both are even slower than a stand alone burner. I saw a 48x burner the other day. That's 48x on the burn, not the read.



    Not to go off on a rant, but this exactly why the next Powermac should have 2 (or god, forbid, 3) full-size bays, so you can put the best performing components in.



    I don't know much about stand-alone DVDR drives, but I would suspect that the stand-alones are faster. I'll defer to a moe knowledgeable person on that.



    Jet
  • Reply 14 of 15
    cubitcubit Posts: 846member
    [quote]Originally posted by rbald:

    <strong>

    Save yourself the aggrivation and buy yourself a windows pc! why would you want to spend all that money over 2 grand for the power mac, $1800 for the imac!! the power mac with 133mhz memory and a 133mhz bus or the imac with 100 mhz memory and a 100mhz bus!!! What a joke! You'd have to be an idiot!!

    <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    No one need extend the argument: rbald has proven the case that Mac users think, while PC advocates usually don't. Batter Up!
  • Reply 15 of 15
    kraig911kraig911 Posts: 912member
    Imac all the way

    You think you got it bad all I have at work is an old G3 400mhz, it really blows, and I'm not "allowed" to use OS X, we got a new system administrator, he wants to be completely windows I gotta go cry now
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