I still want a MBP update...

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
I know everything that ?came out? yesterday was predicted, but I was still hoping for a few surprises; particularly an updated MBP. I had given up my pipe-dream of a complete and miraculous dream machine and had settled for the lower voltage CPU. It was not to be. I need a computer for fall semester. Do you think it?s worth waiting the month in hopes of the new processor, or should I just bite the bullet?
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  • Reply 1 of 25
    mr. memr. me Posts: 3,221member
    If you don't need a new computer now, then don't buy a new computer now. If you need a new computer, then you have no choice. Based on the fact that you asked the question, I can only assume that this computer is a discretionary purchase. As such, you are free to delay it as long as you wish.
  • Reply 2 of 25
    squiremsquirem Posts: 29member
    I’m really uncomfortable with the gambling aspect of a computer purchase. I accept that whatever computer I get will be outdated within 6 months. What bothers me is not knowing if the next best thing will be released the week (or day) after I commit the $3000. Particularly if the next best thing adds and extra hour or two to the battery run time. I’m not really looking for a guarantee; I’m looking to hedge my bet. Thoughts?
  • Reply 3 of 25
    amodaamoda Posts: 17member
    If i were you i'd wait. You don't really need the pc now do you? No essays to write yet, nothing school related (i'm assuming...). Yeah it would be nice to have it to play with right now and to be able to start "breaking it in" but yeah...if i were in your position i'd wait. But if they don't release anything within by the first two weeks of school (were nothing really happens) then yeah i'd bite the bullet.
  • Reply 4 of 25
    meelashmeelash Posts: 1,045member
    Wait until just before the free iPod promotion ends-Sept. 16 I believe. If something comes out before then, buy, buy, buy!!
  • Reply 5 of 25
    I'm in the same boat (except I don't have to go to school until January) as you. I was really hoping WWDC would come out with something new in the MBP line. Sadly, I think we have to wait for Apple Expo Paris in September before we hear any thing new. Honestly, the wait is killing me, especially since there is an Apple store near my house where I can play with the MBPs. But I know that I will kick my own ass if I buy one now and then find out that Apple drops a new MBP on us in September.



    The Merom chips seem to be adding 10-12 minutes to the battery life (not an hour) so you don't have to worry too much about that. And the supposed 20% increase in speed isn't as noticable as Intel would have you think. The real question is what changes other than Merom are Apple going to make? I'm betting 1Gb RAM will be minimum in the MBP as well as a bump in screen resolution. Perhaps a case redesign will come too, but I'm happy with what's available now.



    In another thread, someone mentioned that Apple tends to burn off their supply with Back-To-School specials (free iPod this time around) in an effort to make room for a new release in September. This makes sense because Apple isn't really the type to just throw in free stuff (you can't even use a coupon on iPods at BestBuy) unless they have an ace up their sleeve. Thus, I'm waiting until Apple Expo Paris. If nothing comes out then, I'm digging into a Yonah MBP.



    That was a longwinded way of saying, "Wait a month."
  • Reply 6 of 25
    shadowxshadowx Posts: 27member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WhetWurm


    I'm in the same boat (except I don't have to go to school until January) as you. I was really hoping WWDC would come out with something new in the MBP line. Sadly, I think we have to wait for Apple Expo Paris in September before we hear any thing new. Honestly, the wait is killing me, especially since there is an Apple store near my house where I can play with the MBPs. But I know that I will kick my own ass if I buy one now and then find out that Apple drops a new MBP on us in September.



    The Merom chips seem to be adding 10-12 minutes to the battery life (not an hour) so you don't have to worry too much about that. And the supposed 20% increase in speed isn't as noticable as Intel would have you think. The real question is what changes other than Merom are Apple going to make? I'm betting 1Gb RAM will be minimum in the MBP as well as a bump in screen resolution. Perhaps a case redesign will come too, but I'm happy with what's available now.



    In another thread, someone mentioned that Apple tends to burn off their supply with Back-To-School specials (free iPod this time around) in an effort to make room for a new release in September. This makes sense because Apple isn't really the type to just throw in free stuff (you can't even use a coupon on iPods at BestBuy) unless they have an ace up their sleeve. Thus, I'm waiting until Apple Expo Paris. If nothing comes out then, I'm digging into a Yonah MBP.



    That was a longwinded way of saying, "Wait a month."





    I don't think we will see any design changes until Q1 '07 when Santa Rosa hits the streets...BUT I'm just a little worried that if I buy a Yonah MBP I'll regret not having a 64bit Merom for Leopard...
  • Reply 7 of 25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ShadowX


    I don't think we will see any design changes until Q1 '07 when Santa Rosa hits the streets...BUT I'm just a little worried that if I buy a Yonah MBP I'll regret not having a 64bit Merom for Leopard...



    I honestly wouldn't worry about it. The 64-bit precision isn't necessary yet. I have an Athlon64 in my gaming PC at home and I gave Windows XP x64 a run-around... not a damn bit of difference. I went back to Windows MCE2005 because the drivers sucked so much for x64. I can't imagine too much will be different for Leopard. My rationale is that, by the time 64-bit software is universal (2-3 years?), I'll want to buy a new MBP anyway. Besides, there will be something newer and better (Core 3 Duo?) by then.
  • Reply 8 of 25
    mwswamimwswami Posts: 166member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WhetWurm


    Besides, there will be something newer and better (Core 3 Duo?) by then.



    In 2-3 years, it will be more like Core 3 Quattro for the laptop and Core 3 Octo for the desktop.
  • Reply 9 of 25
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    The ONLY reason I REALLY see for 64 bit stuff is more RAM. So...in other words, you can have 16 gigs of RAM in your MBP. And (I think?) with leopard you'll be able to let apps utilize as much of that as you want. Correct me if I'm wrong.
  • Reply 10 of 25
    Yea this is hell for entering college students. I want to wait to see if they are upgraded before leaving, but I only got about 3 weeks. Hurry Apple!!!8)
  • Reply 11 of 25
    meelashmeelash Posts: 1,045member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thmst30


    Yea this is hell for entering college students. I want to wait to see if they are upgraded before leaving, but I only got about 3 weeks. Hurry Apple!!!8)



    I hear ya....
  • Reply 12 of 25
    Exactly. I'm buying a laptop before leaving, and although I'd like a Macbook Pro, i'll get the next-best thing (Dell, Vaio) if it's got a Core 2 Duo (Merom) in it. I can't afford to have my laptop superceded two weeks after I buy it. I will too be angry if I have to wait weeks for shipping. Come on Apple (+ Intel)!
  • Reply 13 of 25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by b3ns0n


    Exactly. I'm buying a laptop before leaving, and although I'd like a Macbook Pro, i'll get the next-best thing (Dell, Vaio) if it's got a Core 2 Duo (Merom) in it. I can't afford to have my laptop superceded two weeks after I buy it. I will too be angry if I have to wait weeks for shipping. Come on Apple (+ Intel)!



    You really have no reason to be angry if you have to get a Yonah MBP... they aren't at all worre than the Merom MBP's. The only real benefits that Merom has over Yonah are 10 minutes more battery life (estimated) and 20% (on paper) performance boost. Honestly, if I didn't think they would make 1Gb the lowest RAM spec and HD screens the norm, I'd get a Yonah now. Seriously, if you need it for school, you're better off buying it now. If you can survive until late September, then wait. They aren't even guaranteed to come out in September. If they don't, I'm buying a Yonah MBP. I can't wait for MWSF, but I can wait until Apple Expo Paris.



    EDIT: I was just reading that HHD's (Hybrid Hard Drives) would be releasing later this year that would boost battery life as much as 30% in laptops. I wonder if Apple is holding off on the MBP updates to make use off the powersaving features of these awesome new drives...?
  • Reply 14 of 25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by WhetWurm


    You really have no reason to be angry if you have to get a Yonah MBP... they aren't at all worre than the Merom MBP's. The only real benefits that Merom has over Yonah are 10 minutes more battery life (estimated) and 20% (on paper) performance boost. Honestly, if I didn't think they would make 1Gb the lowest RAM spec and HD screens the norm, I'd get a Yonah now. Seriously, if you need it for school, you're better off buying it now. If you can survive until late September, then wait. They aren't even guaranteed to come out in September. If they don't, I'm buying a Yonah MBP. I can't wait for MWSF, but I can wait until Apple Expo Paris.



    EDIT: I was just reading that HHD's (Hybrid Hard Drives) would be releasing later this year that would boost battery life as much as 30% in laptops. I wonder if Apple is holding off on the MBP updates to make use off the powersaving features of these awesome new drives...?



    First off, could someone please share with me what the official dates are for Apple Expo Paris?



    I am in the same boat as the rest of you. I am long overdue for a computer upgrade. My laptop is an iBook G3, and my desktop is a heavily upgraded G4 Tower. Both computers have served me well, but they are well past their prime. I just finished my under graduate education last Spring. As a gift to myself I want to buy a new computer. I love the portability of a laptop, but I hate how little of it can be upgraded. I also don't want to purchase a Yonah MBP when I know the Merom version is right around the corner.



    Honestly now that I've seen what the Mac Pros look like, I am very tempted to purcahse one. I would miss the portability of a laptop, but who am I kidding, a 17" MBP isn't that portable to begin with... The MP would let me upgrade the processor, hard drive, ram, optical drives, video card, and just about anything else I could dream of. The Mac Pros are expensive, but I think the usable lifetime of a tower long outlasts a laptop.



    Heck, at this point I am thinking I'll buy a Mac Pro, and if I really need a laptop for grad school, I'll pick up a cheap MacBook for my portable word processing needs...



    -Kerrum
  • Reply 15 of 25
    mwswamimwswami Posts: 166member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kerrum


    First off, could someone please share with me what the official dates are for Apple Expo Paris?



    Apple Expo 2006 is to be held from 12 to 16 September at Paris expo Porte de Versailles, Hall 5.
  • Reply 16 of 25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mwswami


    Apple Expo 2006 is to be held from 12 to 16 September at Paris expo Porte de Versailles, Hall 5.



    Perfect, thank you!
  • Reply 17 of 25
    meelashmeelash Posts: 1,045member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mwswami


    Apple Expo 2006 is to be held from 12 to 16 September at Paris expo Porte de Versailles, Hall 5.



    So the keynote will be over before the free Nano promotion is over. That's awesome. If there's new iMac or MB's that week, Apple's gonna get swamped by orders from all us students and there'll probably be months of wait time.... But I guess if they hold off until then, they'll have plenty of time to pile up inventory of those Conroe's that are going to be in my new iMac
  • Reply 18 of 25
    MBPs are expected to start using merom chips at the apple expo
  • Reply 19 of 25
    applepiapplepi Posts: 365member
    What about the regular Macbooks, when do you suspect they get the upgrade? I'm looking to buy one this September.
  • Reply 20 of 25
    i don't know, but the MBP will be updated before the MB, as it has been out longer
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