No worries people, i called apple and they said that it is just a technical error with the retail price showing for $2999. They said that they are working on it and should check back in a couple hours, at the most tomorrow morning. Quite alarming and I do hope that they keep the same $2399 price. By the way while I'm at it. I know that it is up to my needs but do you think 4 weeks wait for a superdive compared to a 4 days wait for a combo drive is worth it? Also, does anyone know if these new PBs are superdrive upgradable in the future in case someone orders the combo drive? Thanks.
No one's cheating apple. They made their rules. They explicitly state that ANY college student can sign up. It is not a full developer membership. The main point seems to be to give students interested in computers and apple a bigger discount than the normal edu one. You can only purchase one machine, but that seems logical for something geared toward college students.
I think it's a wonderful idea, and it makes me even happier with apple. College students need computers and tend to have the least money. College students interested enough to dig around and find this discount certainly deserve it, and I'm sure apple is happy they do. It boosts sales and brings in new customers that might have otherwise been turned back by high prices.
I think it's a good advertising point for Apple to have Macs in the hands of savvy kids on campus. I know people who wouldn't have bought an Apple normally, but jumped at the chance to use the 20% off discount.
Little Secret: If you subscribe to the legit ADC (I think one of the top two programs), Apple will give you the 20% offer about once every year. Granted the cost is high, but for developers who buy a new computer about once a year, it balances out nicely and you get a ton of pre-release software (and releae versions) for free from apple, plus a ton of documentation.
<strong>I too would like to know if anyone has actually gotten a discount while not taking CS classes. Does Apple actually request proof like they say?</strong><hr></blockquote>
yes they do, you have to fax in your transcripts, etc. or else your order will be cancelled
According to my on-line order status: PBG4 15/1GHZ/1024/60G/SD/AP/LL @ ADC DISCOUNT - RAM PROMO = $2379+tax. Which doesn't make sense, really. Shouldn't it be $2399+40 = $2439 (+tax)? Not that I'm complaining. I've been waiting so long for this! Just 3-4 (7 minimum) weeks to go...
<strong>No one's cheating apple. They made their rules. They explicitly state that ANY college student can sign up. It is not a full developer membership. The main point seems to be to give students interested in computers and apple a bigger discount than the normal edu one. You can only purchase one machine, but that seems logical for something geared toward college students.
I think it's a wonderful idea, and it makes me even happier with apple. College students need computers and tend to have the least money. College students interested enough to dig around and find this discount certainly deserve it, and I'm sure apple is happy they do. It boosts sales and brings in new customers that might have otherwise been turned back by high prices.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It's fine to join the Student ADC. That, however, does not grant you access to the developer hardware discount. You must be enrolled in good enough course at Apple's discretion to get the hardware discount.
Should a EMT trainee at a community college get this discount just because he paid $99 for the student ADC subscription? I don't think so, and Apple doesn't think so either.
[quote]Please be sure you are adhering to the Terms and Conditions before ordering. In addition, we request that students fax a copy of student identification AND proof of current class registration in developer-related courses. Apple reserves the right to refuse access to this offer by non-students and/or non-developers.<hr></blockquote>
<strong>I too would like to know if anyone has actually gotten a discount while not taking CS classes. Does Apple actually request proof like they say?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Just take a CS class or two! Go and learn something useful! Become a power user. I'm up for a B.A. in Urban Planning but that's not keeping me from studying DATA STRUCTURES IN JAVA or DATABASE SYSTEMS this semester. Next semester I'll be taking all kinds of GIS and C. Why not graduate with skills that you'll undoubtably unleash in your future workplace.
Now here's a legit scenario. I'm a humanities/pysc/edu person, NO technical background apart from the mandatory stints with SAS/SPSS, but, as of late, I have been involved with projects where I could be a developer. I would still be involved with precious little technical comp.sci stuff, but the concepts in use, the intellectual direction of the projects, goals, outcomes, etc etc... I'm responsible for that. In the same way that Harry Connick Jr was a developer, a student in my situation could be considered a developer of computer technology, even though said person doesn't program or engineer bits and/or wires? The aforementioned 'geeks' might only consider me a user, but my usage would ultimately result in the development of a new delivery of technology?
I can see lots of students in this situation in music, digital arts, web development, and education, and there are probably others who are not 'developers', yet end up doing a lot of development work.
I'm not a full time student anymore so it doesn't matter to me, just a point.
Eug, quit being an Apple corporate whore, hehehe <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
I found more good news when reading apple's ADC hardware purchase agreement.
This isn't just for students doing software development but hardware too. This is a quote from their pdf file on it
"under the ADC Hardware Purchase Program will be used only for the purpose of developing software and/or
hardware products that will be sold for use with Apple products." Just make sure you have the required classes before ordering. Call apple, they will be much happier if you check beforehand than as an afterthought if you are unsure if you qualify.
Yes, it's absolutely available to Canadians. You have to order from a different site - <a href="http://www.emj.ca"; target="_blank">EMJ</a> - but you still get the heavy discount, and in Canadian dollars no less.
A guy I work with bought his iBook this way last Jan.
Yes, it's absolutely available to Canadians. You have to order from a different site - <a href="http://www.emj.ca"; target="_blank">EMJ</a> - but you still get the heavy discount, and in Canadian dollars no less.
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Any idea what the new Powerbooks would go for? (encryption prevents me from checking out the price list).
I'm wondering if the savings of roughly 25% still apply. I'd love to pick up a 867 for under $3K Canadian.
I used the ADC student deal to save over $800 on my Ti 500 when I purchased it back in the day. Not bad for a $100 membership, plus you'd get all the OS CDs.
But it worked out well for Apple too, as now I'm paying the $500 for a Select membership so I can buy another discounted treat after the new stuff is released next year. On a major purchase there's still a decent savings but doing all this for an iBook is a waste of time.
Any idea what the new Powerbooks would go for? (encryption prevents me from checking out the price list).
I'm wondering if the savings of roughly 25% still apply. I'd love to pick up a 867 for under $3K Canadian.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not yet, but the usual discount is about 17%. I'm in the same market but haven't yet bought an ADC membership (because I might not buy for ~6 months yet!) - however I'm trying to get the password for the excel documents all the same. We'll see what happens - my contact is away for the weekend.
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I think it's a wonderful idea, and it makes me even happier with apple. College students need computers and tend to have the least money. College students interested enough to dig around and find this discount certainly deserve it, and I'm sure apple is happy they do. It boosts sales and brings in new customers that might have otherwise been turned back by high prices.
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Little Secret: If you subscribe to the legit ADC (I think one of the top two programs), Apple will give you the 20% offer about once every year. Granted the cost is high, but for developers who buy a new computer about once a year, it balances out nicely and you get a ton of pre-release software (and releae versions) for free from apple, plus a ton of documentation.
<strong>I too would like to know if anyone has actually gotten a discount while not taking CS classes. Does Apple actually request proof like they say?</strong><hr></blockquote>
yes they do, you have to fax in your transcripts, etc. or else your order will be cancelled
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<strong>No one's cheating apple. They made their rules. They explicitly state that ANY college student can sign up. It is not a full developer membership. The main point seems to be to give students interested in computers and apple a bigger discount than the normal edu one. You can only purchase one machine, but that seems logical for something geared toward college students.
I think it's a wonderful idea, and it makes me even happier with apple. College students need computers and tend to have the least money. College students interested enough to dig around and find this discount certainly deserve it, and I'm sure apple is happy they do. It boosts sales and brings in new customers that might have otherwise been turned back by high prices.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It's fine to join the Student ADC. That, however, does not grant you access to the developer hardware discount. You must be enrolled in good enough course at Apple's discretion to get the hardware discount.
Should a EMT trainee at a community college get this discount just because he paid $99 for the student ADC subscription? I don't think so, and Apple doesn't think so either.
[quote]Please be sure you are adhering to the Terms and Conditions before ordering. In addition, we request that students fax a copy of student identification AND proof of current class registration in developer-related courses. Apple reserves the right to refuse access to this offer by non-students and/or non-developers.<hr></blockquote>
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<strong>I too would like to know if anyone has actually gotten a discount while not taking CS classes. Does Apple actually request proof like they say?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Just take a CS class or two! Go and learn something useful! Become a power user. I'm up for a B.A. in Urban Planning but that's not keeping me from studying DATA STRUCTURES IN JAVA or DATABASE SYSTEMS this semester. Next semester I'll be taking all kinds of GIS and C. Why not graduate with skills that you'll undoubtably unleash in your future workplace.
I can see lots of students in this situation in music, digital arts, web development, and education, and there are probably others who are not 'developers', yet end up doing a lot of development work.
I'm not a full time student anymore so it doesn't matter to me, just a point.
Eug, quit being an Apple corporate whore, hehehe <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
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Eug, quit being an Apple corporate whore, hehehe
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Don't you know? The Apple Corporate Whore discount is even better than the developer discount!
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Don't you know? The Apple Corporate Whore discount is even better than the developer discount!
The PowerBook discounts are about the same, but the consumer hardware is a bit cheaper...+ quarterly promos to dump off old stock.
Just suck up to your nearest Apple employee friends or friends of friends...
This isn't just for students doing software development but hardware too. This is a quote from their pdf file on it
"under the ADC Hardware Purchase Program will be used only for the purpose of developing software and/or
hardware products that will be sold for use with Apple products." Just make sure you have the required classes before ordering. Call apple, they will be much happier if you check beforehand than as an afterthought if you are unsure if you qualify.
Even with the exchange and membership, it works out to a savings of nearly $750 for the 1Ghz!
May have to sponsor or talk to my nephew who's attending college.
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<strong>Is this program available to Canadians? And if so, do we order it from the US site or is there an equivalent Canadian one?
Even with the exchange and membership, it works out to a savings of nearly $750 for the 1Ghz!
May have to sponsor or talk to my nephew who's attending college.
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Yes, it's absolutely available to Canadians. You have to order from a different site - <a href="http://www.emj.ca"; target="_blank">EMJ</a> - but you still get the heavy discount, and in Canadian dollars no less.
A guy I work with bought his iBook this way last Jan.
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Don't you know? The Apple Corporate Whore discount is even better than the developer discount!
lol Eugene, you tool
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Yes, it's absolutely available to Canadians. You have to order from a different site - <a href="http://www.emj.ca"; target="_blank">EMJ</a> - but you still get the heavy discount, and in Canadian dollars no less.
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Any idea what the new Powerbooks would go for? (encryption prevents me from checking out the price list).
I'm wondering if the savings of roughly 25% still apply. I'd love to pick up a 867 for under $3K Canadian.
But it worked out well for Apple too, as now I'm paying the $500 for a Select membership so I can buy another discounted treat after the new stuff is released next year. On a major purchase there's still a decent savings but doing all this for an iBook is a waste of time.
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Any idea what the new Powerbooks would go for? (encryption prevents me from checking out the price list).
I'm wondering if the savings of roughly 25% still apply. I'd love to pick up a 867 for under $3K Canadian.</strong><hr></blockquote>
The stock 867 Ti is $1,839 US. The 1 Gig Ti w/ superdrive is $2,399.
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Any idea what the new Powerbooks would go for? (encryption prevents me from checking out the price list).
I'm wondering if the savings of roughly 25% still apply. I'd love to pick up a 867 for under $3K Canadian.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Not yet, but the usual discount is about 17%. I'm in the same market but haven't yet bought an ADC membership (because I might not buy for ~6 months yet!) - however I'm trying to get the password for the excel documents all the same. We'll see what happens - my contact is away for the weekend.