It wasn't feigned. I honestly don't understand why people like that movie.
Yes, of course.
My god, man!? why all the baiting? ... Sewell's character's primo 'birth' experience in the bath at the beginning, through the repeated 'escape from control' of the 'beings that live off others' themes--coupled Jack Bauer's use of science to overcome, to help the Übermensch realize himself -- culminating in the overthrow of the Fates....?
My god, man!? why all the baiting? ... Sewell's character's primo 'birth' experience in the bath at the beginning, through the repeated 'escape from control' of the 'beings that live off others' themes--coupled Jack Bauer's use of science to overcome, to help the Übermensch realize himself -- culminating in the overthrow of the Fates....?
My god, man!? why all the baiting? ... Sewell's character's primo 'birth' experience in the bath at the beginning, through the repeated 'escape from control' of the 'beings that live off others' themes--coupled Jack Bauer's use of science to overcome, to help the Übermensch realize himself -- culminating in the overthrow of the Fates....?
Give me a break.....
How about instead of acting like an ass you believe me when I say "It wasn't feigned. I honestly don't understand why people like that movie"?
If what you're describing here is in fact why people like the movie?because it sticks ham-fistedly to some kind of Jungian/Nietzschean/Campbellian narrative structure?then fine. I don't find that kind of narrative structure interesting or compelling in and of itself, and I was hoping there was more to it than a stylized Campbellian masturbation with reference to neither Baudrillard nor simulacra that I was missing, considering the sheer volume of film buffs I know who love it. Is there something special about the acting? About the sci-fi adaptation of noir? About the noir adaptation of sci-fi? about the sets? about the lighting? camera work? the effects?
But seriously, man. This is AO, not PO. I'm not baiting anyone and I'm making sincere statements. You can ratchet down the paranoia about a thousand percent.
Thanks for the suggestions. I've seen several of them, but I've never heard of Junior Brown's Planet. What's that? I didn't see it on Netflix or Amazon. Seeing Pi and Requiem for a Dream also reminds of Primer (oh I guess it's not by the same guy - I thought it was).
The Planet of Junior Brown is a weird little movie I caught late one night on cable. Was apparently released as Junior's Groove, but a solid performance by Sarah Polley, Margo Kidder (who I don't like), and Clark Johnson (Meldrick on Homicide).
The Planet of Junior Brown is a weird little movie I caught late one night on cable. Was apparently released as Junior's Groove, but a solid performance by Sarah Polley, Margo Kidder (who I don't like), and Clark Johnson (Meldrick on Homicide).
Ooooh, for intense BRussell could just do a "Homicide" marathon. Andre Braugher is an entire sub-genre of intense unto himself.
Oh yeah, let me add to the list Run Lola Run and The Princess and the Warrior, both by German director Tom Tykwer and both staring sexy-in-that- slightly-butch-Euro-way Franka Potente.
Both are a tad gimmicky but tons 'o fun. Run Lola Run, in particular, is one of those "I"m too crazed with film ideas to edit myself or say no to my most excessive impulses" kind of deal but in a highly controlled German way.
Clark Johnson is also a director; mainly TV shows like The Shield, but he did make The Sentinel with Michael Douglas recently. And if you like Andre Brougher, I suggest you download the first season of Thief if you haven't seen it already. Very intense show, and not all flashy like that Heist show on NBC.
How about instead of acting like an ass you believe me when I say "It wasn't feigned. I honestly don't understand why people like that movie"?
If what you're describing here is in fact why people like the movie—because it sticks ham-fistedly to some kind of Jungian/Nietzschean/Campbellian narrative structure—then fine. I don't find that kind of narrative structure interesting or compelling in and of itself, and I was hoping there was more to it than a stylized Campbellian masturbation with reference to neither Baudrillard nor simulacra that I was missing, considering the sheer volume of film buffs I know who love it. Is there something special about the acting? About the sci-fi adaptation of noir? About the noir adaptation of sci-fi? about the sets? about the lighting? camera work? the effects?
But seriously, man. This is AO, not PO. I'm not baiting anyone and I'm making sincere statements. You can ratchet down the paranoia about a thousand percent.
I call baiting on the highest order. If you thought the movie was clumsy, you should have said so. Guilty!!
(that said, my cat-kicking deficit need not show in my posts -- apologies)
I mean films that you don't really understand when you're watching them the first time. YOu have to do a lot of work just to figure out what's going on.
No mention of 2046 yet‽ That's a new classic. also Kieslowski's double life of veronique.
BTW, if you haven't read it yet, the new yorker article on mulholland drive's background is the key to understanding much of the big picture, and if Auditioning Betty in Mulholland Drive from the fall 04 film quarterly deconstructs the most important scene.
I mean films that you don't really understand when you're watching them the first time. YOu have to do a lot of work just to figure out what's going on.
Ooooh, for intense BRussell could just do a "Homicide" marathon. Andre Braugher is an entire sub-genre of intense unto himself.
I thought about just saying that, too. Especially those early seasons.
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Oh yeah, let me add to the list Run Lola Run and The Princess and the Warrior, both by German director Tom Tykwer and both staring sexy-in-that- slightly-butch-Euro-way Franka Potente.
With the caveat that they are largely the same movie. Although the train in Wupperthal that runs over the river is very cool (I stayed, brielfy, in the city where the Princess and the Warrior was filmed).
I didn't make it past the first season with that. Loved the first season. But didn't make it past it.
Yeah, carnivale's second season is on DVD now. I have 4 episodes left, but I've been putting it off because I don't want to burn it up. If you want a super long puzzle flick, though, this is it.
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E.g., the Virgin Spring. That one knocked me for a loop and a half.
If you liked Persona try some of the earlier efforts.
E.g., the Virgin Spring. That one knocked me for a loop and a half.
Try watching Virgin Spring trans-coital. It's revelatory.
It wasn't feigned. I honestly don't understand why people like that movie.
Yes, of course.
My god, man!? why all the baiting? ... Sewell's character's primo 'birth' experience in the bath at the beginning, through the repeated 'escape from control' of the 'beings that live off others' themes--coupled Jack Bauer's use of science to overcome, to help the Übermensch realize himself -- culminating in the overthrow of the Fates....?
Give me a break.....
If you liked Persona try some of the earlier efforts.
I saw that in a european film class when i was in college. Loved it.
Yes, of course.
My god, man!? why all the baiting? ... Sewell's character's primo 'birth' experience in the bath at the beginning, through the repeated 'escape from control' of the 'beings that live off others' themes--coupled Jack Bauer's use of science to overcome, to help the Übermensch realize himself -- culminating in the overthrow of the Fates....?
Give me a break.....
I don't have a clue what all this means...
Coppola's The Conversation
Soderbergh's The Limey
Welles' The Trial
...and anything by Kubrick, but especially A Clockwork Orange
Yes, of course.
My god, man!? why all the baiting? ... Sewell's character's primo 'birth' experience in the bath at the beginning, through the repeated 'escape from control' of the 'beings that live off others' themes--coupled Jack Bauer's use of science to overcome, to help the Übermensch realize himself -- culminating in the overthrow of the Fates....?
Give me a break.....
How about instead of acting like an ass you believe me when I say "It wasn't feigned. I honestly don't understand why people like that movie"?
If what you're describing here is in fact why people like the movie?because it sticks ham-fistedly to some kind of Jungian/Nietzschean/Campbellian narrative structure?then fine. I don't find that kind of narrative structure interesting or compelling in and of itself, and I was hoping there was more to it than a stylized Campbellian masturbation with reference to neither Baudrillard nor simulacra that I was missing, considering the sheer volume of film buffs I know who love it. Is there something special about the acting? About the sci-fi adaptation of noir? About the noir adaptation of sci-fi? about the sets? about the lighting? camera work? the effects?
But seriously, man. This is AO, not PO. I'm not baiting anyone and I'm making sincere statements. You can ratchet down the paranoia about a thousand percent.
Thanks for the suggestions. I've seen several of them, but I've never heard of Junior Brown's Planet. What's that? I didn't see it on Netflix or Amazon. Seeing Pi and Requiem for a Dream also reminds of Primer (oh I guess it's not by the same guy - I thought it was).
The Planet of Junior Brown is a weird little movie I caught late one night on cable. Was apparently released as Junior's Groove, but a solid performance by Sarah Polley, Margo Kidder (who I don't like), and Clark Johnson (Meldrick on Homicide).
Polanski's The Tenant
Coppola's The Conversation
Soderbergh's The Limey
Welles' The Trial
...and anything by Kubrick, but especially A Clockwork Orange
Good ones, all.
The Planet of Junior Brown is a weird little movie I caught late one night on cable. Was apparently released as Junior's Groove, but a solid performance by Sarah Polley, Margo Kidder (who I don't like), and Clark Johnson (Meldrick on Homicide).
Ooooh, for intense BRussell could just do a "Homicide" marathon. Andre Braugher is an entire sub-genre of intense unto himself.
Oh yeah, let me add to the list Run Lola Run and The Princess and the Warrior, both by German director Tom Tykwer and both staring sexy-in-that- slightly-butch-Euro-way Franka Potente.
Both are a tad gimmicky but tons 'o fun. Run Lola Run, in particular, is one of those "I"m too crazed with film ideas to edit myself or say no to my most excessive impulses" kind of deal but in a highly controlled German way.
How about instead of acting like an ass you believe me when I say "It wasn't feigned. I honestly don't understand why people like that movie"?
If what you're describing here is in fact why people like the movie—because it sticks ham-fistedly to some kind of Jungian/Nietzschean/Campbellian narrative structure—then fine. I don't find that kind of narrative structure interesting or compelling in and of itself, and I was hoping there was more to it than a stylized Campbellian masturbation with reference to neither Baudrillard nor simulacra that I was missing, considering the sheer volume of film buffs I know who love it. Is there something special about the acting? About the sci-fi adaptation of noir? About the noir adaptation of sci-fi? about the sets? about the lighting? camera work? the effects?
But seriously, man. This is AO, not PO. I'm not baiting anyone and I'm making sincere statements. You can ratchet down the paranoia about a thousand percent.
I call baiting on the highest order. If you thought the movie was clumsy, you should have said so. Guilty!!
(that said, my cat-kicking deficit need not show in my posts -- apologies)
I don't know what you mean by "challenging"
I mean films that you don't really understand when you're watching them the first time. YOu have to do a lot of work just to figure out what's going on.
BTW, if you haven't read it yet, the new yorker article on mulholland drive's background is the key to understanding much of the big picture, and if Auditioning Betty in Mulholland Drive from the fall 04 film quarterly deconstructs the most important scene.
I mean films that you don't really understand when you're watching them the first time. YOu have to do a lot of work just to figure out what's going on.
You mean like puzzle films?
Ooooh, for intense BRussell could just do a "Homicide" marathon. Andre Braugher is an entire sub-genre of intense unto himself.
I thought about just saying that, too. Especially those early seasons.
Oh yeah, let me add to the list Run Lola Run and The Princess and the Warrior, both by German director Tom Tykwer and both staring sexy-in-that- slightly-butch-Euro-way Franka Potente.
With the caveat that they are largely the same movie.
I didn't make it past the first season with that. Loved the first season. But didn't make it past it.
Yeah, carnivale's second season is on DVD now. I have 4 episodes left, but I've been putting it off because I don't want to burn it up. If you want a super long puzzle flick, though, this is it.