I know that a lot of workstation software is optimised for AMD and runs a bit faster on AMD than Intel.
What if Apple were to broaden its laptop range BOTH at the lower and higher end? What if Apple were to introduce an ultra portable using Intels low voltage chips, but also a 'portable desktop' workstation class laptop featuring an AMD chip? Anyone know of any such AMD chip is coming?
While a lot of people said they wanted an ultra portable, there were also some who said the current 17" MacBook Pro doesn't offer enough oomph either. Things like HD displays, support for two internal HDs, pro portable graphics card, etc.
But perhaps this is not even about laptops? Maybe it's about servers or some Mac Station workstation type machine.
who really gives a flying fcuk (tm) about any minor performance difference that might result from it anyway? just fanbois, most likely. it's not like we are suffering under PPC anymore. jeez, get over it.
If someone other than digitimes posted this........ I may go with it. But just the fact that digitimes posted this... macosrumors might as well have posted it.
The thing that really strikes me as being odd in the screenshot (I understand its OSX86) is why the bus speed is defaulting at 100mhz...doesn't make much sense to me.
The thing that really strikes me as being odd in the screenshot (I understand its OSX86) is why the bus speed is defaulting at 100mhz...doesn't make much sense to me.
Because it's a Sempron. Semprons have 100Mhz EV6 buses.
Really, AMD fanbois need to get a clue. AMD having nothing competitive with Intel in the laptop space at all period bar the ultra cheap end.
AMD also have nothing to compete at the high end until you get to 4 socket configs.
AMD have nothing in the middle either unless you're talking about price.
AMDs chips are hotter running than Intel's.
Apple doesn't do anything in any of those areas. It's fine if you're Dell and want to supply cheap cruddy laptops with large enclosures - that's not Apple.
The thing that really strikes me as being odd in the screenshot (I understand its OSX86) is why the bus speed is defaulting at 100mhz...doesn't make much sense to me.
Therea re versions of Sempron chips with 100 MHz base FSB (although it is dual-pumped). It would have to be a Socket A model.
However, what makes this picture fake is the SSE3 support listed in the CPU features.
By the feature list, it's more likely to be a Presscott P4.
Because it's a Sempron. Semprons have 100Mhz EV6 buses.
Really, AMD fanbois need to get a clue. AMD having nothing competitive with Intel in the laptop space at all period bar the ultra cheap end.
AMD also have nothing to compete at the high end until you get to 4 socket configs.
AMD have nothing in the middle either unless you're talking about price.
AMDs chips are hotter running than Intel's.
Apple doesn't do anything in any of those areas. It's fine if you're Dell and want to supply cheap cruddy laptops with large enclosures - that's not Apple.
There's no 'workstation laptop' chip either.
Umm how old is the AMD64 design and how long did it take Intel to finally out perform it?
Come on now...lets talk facts people! All this fanboy talk is rather funny to those of us who know the facts about hardware So lets avoid it OK and talk facts. AMD would make Apple stronger and using SLI, Crossfire, and better sound chipsets would really help Apple grow. If you want to ignore this then so be it but ignore it without the hear say.
Yes the new Intel chip design out performs the aging 64 chips and that is no secret. Prior to that AMD64 was king of the hill in performance for the buck, lower power usage etc... Simply do a little internet research for this info. So my hats off to Intel on the Conroe. I'm glad they caught up because it will force AMD to do better and that my friends is how Capitalism works!
By the way that screenshot was taken from the net. I should have stated that earlier but I did have OSX on my AMD64 3200 system via VMware just to see if it would work. I could not find my picture so I grabbed one from the net. I deleted the install being that I use OSX legally
Come on now...lets talk facts people! All this fanboy talk is rather funny to those of us who know the facts about hardware So lets avoid it OK and talk facts. AMD would make Apple stronger and using SLI, Crossfire, and better sound chipsets would really help Apple grow. If you want to ignore this then so be it but ignore it without the hear say.
Yeah, better graphics cards thats the ticket. Lets stick em in a G3 and really rock. I hope you've got some k-y jelly. You gonna get reamed if thats all you've got to back you up.
Umm how old is the AMD64 design and how long did it take Intel to finally out perform it?
What difference does it make how long they took to out perform AMD (and PowerPC for that matter), the FACT is they do now, by a large margin. So Apple possibly using AMD parts has nothing to do with performance - low price maybe but they never compete on low prices.
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Come on now...lets talk facts people! All this fanboy talk is rather funny to those of us who know the facts about hardware
I run a hosting company using entirely AMD Opteron servers so it's not like I don't know my AMD hardware and the benefits it's brought to the server arena.
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Originally Posted by Mkane
So lets avoid it OK and talk facts. AMD would make Apple stronger and using SLI, Crossfire, and better sound chipsets would really help Apple grow. If you want to ignore this then so be it but ignore it without the hear say.
Gamers don't buy Apples, not because of the hardware but because of the lack of games.
SLI, Crossfire and Creative's sound chips don't appeal to most Apple Pros either. They want accuracy, not OMGFPS!! and cheesy effects.
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Originally Posted by Mkane
Yes the new Intel chip design out performs the aging 64 chips and that is no secret. Prior to that AMD64 was king of the hill in performance for the buck, lower power usage etc... Simply do a little internet research for this info. So my hats off to Intel on the Conroe. I'm glad they caught up because it will force AMD to do better and that my friends is how Capitalism works!
Yup but it also means that for the forseeable future Apple will stick with Intel.
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Originally Posted by Mkane
By the way that screenshot was taken from the net. I should have stated that earlier but I did have OSX on my AMD64 3200 system via VMware just to see if it would work. I could not find my picture so I grabbed one from the net. I deleted the install being that I use OSX legally
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Yep, not gonna happen. Intel and Apple are bed buddies 4-ever! Smooches!
the same was said about apple and motarola, and later, apple and IBM, but I still don't think we will see AMD anytime soon
of course apple's gonna have one, the need to do stuff like this in case intel goes bad.
Apple had x86 vesions of OSX since 10.0, so they are prepared
Why lower the price when sheep buy them? LOL!!!
Anyway Apple needs a more hardware options and AMD would be a good start.
Really, calling MacBook owners sheep is really quite hilarious coming from someone with a Sempron and a hacked copy of OSX.
AMD wouldn't be a good start. In what whacky world are AMD laptop chips better than Intel?
Yeah it will happen after we see a G5 PowerBook.
I guess we have to stop saying "yeah it will happen after we get an iPhone" but the powerbook g5 is still golden
Why? Did Apple hire Rumsfeld?
Oh good ol' Rummy.... I wonder what he's up to with his think tank pals.....
I know that a lot of workstation software is optimised for AMD and runs a bit faster on AMD than Intel.
What if Apple were to broaden its laptop range BOTH at the lower and higher end? What if Apple were to introduce an ultra portable using Intels low voltage chips, but also a 'portable desktop' workstation class laptop featuring an AMD chip? Anyone know of any such AMD chip is coming?
While a lot of people said they wanted an ultra portable, there were also some who said the current 17" MacBook Pro doesn't offer enough oomph either. Things like HD displays, support for two internal HDs, pro portable graphics card, etc.
But perhaps this is not even about laptops? Maybe it's about servers or some Mac Station workstation type machine.
sennen
This news has surfaced before also but from a different angel:
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...threadid=67001
There were a lot of comments on this before, its amazing how this keeps coming back again and again..
I'd believe anything an Angel told me!!!!
The thing that really strikes me as being odd in the screenshot (I understand its OSX86) is why the bus speed is defaulting at 100mhz...doesn't make much sense to me.
Because it's a Sempron. Semprons have 100Mhz EV6 buses.
Really, AMD fanbois need to get a clue. AMD having nothing competitive with Intel in the laptop space at all period bar the ultra cheap end.
AMD also have nothing to compete at the high end until you get to 4 socket configs.
AMD have nothing in the middle either unless you're talking about price.
AMDs chips are hotter running than Intel's.
Apple doesn't do anything in any of those areas. It's fine if you're Dell and want to supply cheap cruddy laptops with large enclosures - that's not Apple.
There's no 'workstation laptop' chip either.
The thing that really strikes me as being odd in the screenshot (I understand its OSX86) is why the bus speed is defaulting at 100mhz...doesn't make much sense to me.
Therea re versions of Sempron chips with 100 MHz base FSB (although it is dual-pumped). It would have to be a Socket A model.
However, what makes this picture fake is the SSE3 support listed in the CPU features.
By the feature list, it's more likely to be a Presscott P4.
Therea re versions of Sempron chips with 100 MHz base FSB (although it is dual-pumped). It would have to be a Socket A model.
However, what makes this picture fake is the SSE3 support listed in the CPU features.
By the feature list, it's more likely to be a Presscott P4.
The Sempron 2800+ as in the screenshot supports SSE3.
Does AMD do workstation laptop CPUs?
"Workstation laptop"? Is that one of those mobile tanks sold by Alienware? Does it come with a turret?
Because it's a Sempron. Semprons have 100Mhz EV6 buses.
Really, AMD fanbois need to get a clue. AMD having nothing competitive with Intel in the laptop space at all period bar the ultra cheap end.
AMD also have nothing to compete at the high end until you get to 4 socket configs.
AMD have nothing in the middle either unless you're talking about price.
AMDs chips are hotter running than Intel's.
Apple doesn't do anything in any of those areas. It's fine if you're Dell and want to supply cheap cruddy laptops with large enclosures - that's not Apple.
There's no 'workstation laptop' chip either.
Umm how old is the AMD64 design and how long did it take Intel to finally out perform it?
Come on now...lets talk facts people! All this fanboy talk is rather funny to those of us who know the facts about hardware
Yes the new Intel chip design out performs the aging 64 chips and that is no secret. Prior to that AMD64 was king of the hill in performance for the buck, lower power usage etc... Simply do a little internet research for this info. So my hats off to Intel on the Conroe. I'm glad they caught up because it will force AMD to do better and that my friends is how Capitalism works!
By the way that screenshot was taken from the net. I should have stated that earlier but I did have OSX on my AMD64 3200 system via VMware just to see if it would work. I could not find my picture so I grabbed one from the net. I deleted the install being that I use OSX legally
Come on now...lets talk facts people! All this fanboy talk is rather funny to those of us who know the facts about hardware
Yeah, better graphics cards thats the ticket. Lets stick em in a G3 and really rock. I hope you've got some k-y jelly. You gonna get reamed if thats all you've got to back you up.
Umm how old is the AMD64 design and how long did it take Intel to finally out perform it?
What difference does it make how long they took to out perform AMD (and PowerPC for that matter), the FACT is they do now, by a large margin. So Apple possibly using AMD parts has nothing to do with performance - low price maybe but they never compete on low prices.
Come on now...lets talk facts people! All this fanboy talk is rather funny to those of us who know the facts about hardware
I run a hosting company using entirely AMD Opteron servers so it's not like I don't know my AMD hardware and the benefits it's brought to the server arena.
So lets avoid it OK and talk facts. AMD would make Apple stronger and using SLI, Crossfire, and better sound chipsets would really help Apple grow. If you want to ignore this then so be it but ignore it without the hear say.
Gamers don't buy Apples, not because of the hardware but because of the lack of games.
SLI, Crossfire and Creative's sound chips don't appeal to most Apple Pros either. They want accuracy, not OMGFPS!! and cheesy effects.
Yes the new Intel chip design out performs the aging 64 chips and that is no secret. Prior to that AMD64 was king of the hill in performance for the buck, lower power usage etc... Simply do a little internet research for this info. So my hats off to Intel on the Conroe. I'm glad they caught up because it will force AMD to do better and that my friends is how Capitalism works!
Yup but it also means that for the forseeable future Apple will stick with Intel.
By the way that screenshot was taken from the net. I should have stated that earlier but I did have OSX on my AMD64 3200 system via VMware just to see if it would work. I could not find my picture so I grabbed one from the net. I deleted the install being that I use OSX legally
It's ok, we believe you Sempron boy.
Did I get caught? LOL!