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'Can you imagine reaching over? Well, a little, yes. How about if you remove the need to reach over?' That's what MS has done.

macxpress said:

Let the continuous bitching go on about how much this MacBook Pro sucks...Yes, we know it doesn't support 32GB even though you don't need it. We know it doesn't have MagSafe, we know it doesn't have the legacy (YES Legacy!) USB A, etc. We don't need to be reminded in every god damn article. This is the MacBook Pro Apple has presented and this is what you're getting. Bitching and complaining won't change anything! Apple isn't going to cater to your personal needs. 

This is what Apple does...they push forward when nobody else will. They've always done this and should continue to always do this. This is nothing new and I'm puzzled as to why people think this is, even people who claim they've been buying Apple products for 25yrs. They know at some point a new technology is going to come out and Apple is going to fully switch over to it.

Also....

-Yes, we know Apple needs to update the Mac Pro (Nothing to upgrade to)
-Yes, we know Apple needs to update the iMac (Again, nothing to upgrade to)

I haven't used the one with the touchbar but the 13" without it was pretty nice. I'd seriously consider getting one if I were in the market for such a laptop, however my 12" MacBook suits me just fine for what I use it for. 

I can't wait for spring when Apple releases a new iMac...then we can repeat the process all over again!

Your comment is at odds with itself.

Legacy? You realise that the overwhelming majority of the Mac line still uses ALL of those 'legacy' ports. The current lineup. Late 2016 AND 2017 has all of them.

No sir. They are not legacy at all and that's by definition. Or perhaps we should say Apple is flogging premium priced 'old' equipment as modern?

The iMac had nothing to upgrade to? What? That's complete poppycock. How about some of the stuff that's already in these MBPs? Better graphics? more stock RAM/SSD. shock horror USB-C! Anything would have been better than nothing! Even a Yikes! machine (remember that?)

Apple could have done a WHOLE lot more with the iMac. They simply CHOSE not to. 

So the White House screams extortion, discrimination and foul play. 

Lucky the White House is not a glass house... 

It's just absurd that the 'sheriff' thinks he can point a finger and watch everyone bow down. 

EU affairs are EU affairs. That's it. Any interference, if only in tone or messaging is unwelcome. 

In two words its hypocritical overreach.

And as for extraterritorial regulations, the US really takes the biscuit here so complaining about that, apart from being incorrect, is even more absurd. 

It's time the EU parked diplomacy for a few minutes and called out directly these efforts to interfere. 

rob53 said:

Apple owns its products not the EU. The EU has no right to dictate to Apple how its products operate. As I’ve said before, the EU has every right to build their own platforms but it’s obvious they don’t have the ability or talent to design and manufacture anything people, including those in EU countries, want. It’s time to boycott everything made in the EU but I’m not so sure there’s actually anything they make I really want. 

The EU has every right to level playing fields and counter consumer harm and the stifling of innovation.

That has long been the case. 

In the 'digital' world, the same ideas are applicable but new laws were needed specifically for the kind of cases explained here. 

Do you remember the world pre-pdf?

Interoperability is key to the points mentioned above and for progress. 

Mechanisms will have to be created and perfected but technology has the tendency to outpace legislation so these situations will persist until things get settled. 

This isn't an Apple thing. 

It's a EU thing! ICT carriers were forced to open up their technologies years ago and share their resources to a degree. 

This isn't like the US where for as long as I can remember (and for all I know, may still be the case) your place of residence was a limiting factor to which carriers you could choose from.

I can opt for a virtual carrier which will use the infrastructure of one of the bigger players. That allows for competition to exist. 

Left to its own devices, Apple does not allow for competition to exist. We know this and this is precisely why it is being forced to open up in certain areas (and not only the EU). 

Of course, Apple is free to pull out of the EU. So is Google and Meta et al. Will they? Nope because, as you seem unwilling to contemplate, any pull-out would be met with very swift movements to fill any gaps. 

You personally, may well be able to get by without EU products, but what would Apple's current supply chain do without ASML?