fz750

rogifan_old said:

fz750 said:

I think the TCO  of an iPhone in many markets is a huge deterrent (and by that, I mean initial cost and very high subscription price). The pricing is even ridiculous compared to Apple's own iPads.. (I can get an iPad Air 16Gb for $350..,). I don't mind it being somewhat more than competitors, but it's just too much really.

Yes, The 6 is somehow awful, it's like trying to hold a bar of soap. Nearly everybody I know who has one has the same opinion and had dropped/damaged it despite them liking it in other ways.. The 5S is much nicer in comparison. Both are easily scratched/damaged and have poor battery life. 

I'm not sure I want a 4", something like a 4.3 would be better, I worry that people want a "smaller" phone, but have forgotten how small 4" really is.... 

Some years ago, I wanted an iPhone because all my family/friends had one, all that cool iMessage & FaceTime stuff,  but now that WhatsApp is universal we all use that now so there's less drive for me. If WhatsApp introduce video calls it will be the end of that need for me.. I think Apple should open both to a wider audience...

As for other products: the 12" MacBook is nice but useless, no ports, the Air is so visually outdated now (that large bezel..) despite having great battery life and low weight - why oh why didn't they update this with a retina screen and make it a bit more modern, the 13/15" Macbook Pro is nice and not as expensive as some competitors actually (check comparable ultrabook prices..) but the fixed ram story is a deterrent. My current 2012 Macbook Pro (non retina) would have been a paper-weight now  if I hadn't been able to upgrade the RAM to 16gb after Mavericks..  The watch is a joke, really.. I can't tell you how many colleagues had to be first in that queue, then saw how it didnt' really do anything exceptionally useful and the battery life.., and then Ebayed them.

Apple forecasts one not so great quarter mostly due to tough comps and macro-economic challenges and now all their products suck and are a joke? BS. Apple isn't immune to the wider economy and what's going on in the world. Btw, Apple specifically called out the Watch on the earnings call as being a big seller. I have a Watch and have no issues with battery life so I call BS on your anecdote there.

I never said "all their products", and I am well aware that they make nearly all the smartphone profit on only 25% of all smartphone sales etc. and this is just one quarter. 

I think there are big question marks about their inability to update some product lines (maybe they can't manage such large a portfolio of products, surprising given their financial clout), or simply develop new ones that don't seem to have some big handicap due to the design teams limited view of the world.. I can't plug an external monitor into a Macbook and charge it simultanously - really..!?!  All the people I know who have them are walking around with multi-port adapters as they need to interface to the real world sometime, all because that design team didn't see the need for one more port..   

I bet these people think twice before (blindly) buying apple stuff again - and isn't that the point: with Apple it should "just work" but actually in a number of cases it's not quite..

Any do you really think that daily charging of a watch is ok? I don't. And I know a few ex-owners who agree, it's just not worth the extra hassle for the little functional gain.

The take this morning on the news from their analyst about the Apple earnings was that actually Apple totally avoided stating figures on the watch as it's not been such a big success.. Who knows.

rogifan_old said:

I think there are four things driving iPhone:

1. Longer replacement cycles as smartphones have become good enough and improvements are now largely incremental.
2. Higher prices due to FX impacting demand
3. Apple perhaps overestimating the % of the install base that wanted larger screen iPhone
4. Intangible; some people just don't like the 6 series for whatever reason

I'd like to see Apple release a flagship 4" phone and then see what percent of

I think the TCO  of an iPhone in many markets is a huge deterrent (and by that, I mean initial cost and very high subscription price). The pricing is even ridiculous compared to Apple's own iPads.. (I can get an iPad Air 16Gb for $350..,). I don't mind it being somewhat more than competitors, but it's just too much really.

Yes, The 6 is somehow awful, it's like trying to hold a bar of soap. Nearly everybody I know who has one has the same opinion and had dropped/damaged it despite them liking it in other ways.. The 5S is much nicer in comparison. Both are easily scratched/damaged and have poor battery life. 

I'm not sure I want a 4", something like a 4.3 would be better, I worry that people want a "smaller" phone, but have forgotten how small 4" really is.... 

Some years ago, I wanted an iPhone because all my family/friends had one, all that cool iMessage & FaceTime stuff,  but now that WhatsApp is universal we all use that now so there's less drive for me. If WhatsApp introduce video calls it will be the end of that need for me.. I think Apple should open both to a wider audience...

As for other products: the 12" MacBook is nice but useless, no ports, the Air is so visually outdated now (that large bezel..) despite having great battery life and low weight - why oh why didn't they update this with a retina screen and make it a bit more modern, the 13/15" Macbook Pro is nice and not as expensive as some competitors actually (check comparable ultrabook prices..) but the fixed ram story is a deterrent. My current 2012 Macbook Pro (non retina) would have been a paper-weight now  if I hadn't been able to upgrade the RAM to 16gb after Mavericks..  The watch is a joke, really.. I can't tell you how many colleagues had to be first in that queue, then saw how it didnt' really do anything exceptionally useful and the battery life.., and then Ebayed them.