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darkvader said:

What is wrong with you people?

This is Woz, the guy who created Apple.  The Steve who REALLY created apple, not the attention whore Steve who liked taking credit for what Woz did.

And he's absolutely right.  The iPhone 13 is effectively no different than the 12, which is no different than the 11.  Phones are a mature technology, and pretending that a new model every year is somehow going to be an amazing upgrade is idiotic at this point.

"But battery life is better!" - Guess what?  That's not innovation, Apple could have done that all along, all it takes is making the phone thicker so a bigger battery fits inside.  We could have iPhones that work for a week without charging if Apple really gave up on the idiotic thin fetish.

you see, thats the thing everyone only talks about, about wozniak - that he was the co-founder of apple because since then, he really hasn't been relevant in tech at all or had made any ground-breaking achievements... in fact he has and still is sitting back and making comments to blogs and whatnots for a quick-buck. Can't blame me for not taking his words or opinions with any degree of seriousness... 

mayfly said:

The lack of empathy for victims of stalking, intimidation and violence facilitated by Apple's tracking technology in every post on this topic is stunning to me. What is wrong with you people??

For instance: "Simply…..DONT USE THEM" The victims aren't using them. AirPods are being used against them.

Or: "Who should they sue for making a bad choice of partner?" I feel sorry for anyone who chooses you for a partner.

Or this: "Did the stalkers murder their victims with the airtags? Stupidity has no limits." Yes, they have, and continue to do so. AirTags are deadly weapons in the wrong hands, the same as the crosshairs in your gunsights. You're correct about stupidity having no limits. At least you know you're emotionally retarded.

oh yes, cue the virtue signalers! 

revolution said:

What makes the most sense for Apple to do, is to buy a European Car manufacturer for strategic reasons.  Something like Ferari with recognizable brand name and expertise in business. Ferari is clearly a luxury brand like iPhone. This way both internal and external design geniuses of both the companies can be tapped to create a car that everybody would love to have. Cost would be an issue requiring different models so that people can afford to buy or share!

Ferrari has no valuable IP for electric cars hence buying Ferrari outright and not having an interest in furthering the traditional business-lines of creating supercars makes Ferrari a bad choice for acquisition, instead Apple could simply lure Pininfarina and Ferrari's designers to utilise their expertise in designing cars.

lewchenko said:

canukstorm said:

midwestapplefan said:

airnerd said:

Inflation is a thing.  You know gas, bread, milk, etc all cost more each year as well.

If gas was $6 a gallon, bread was $4 a loaf, and milk cost $6 a gallon right now, you would have a valid comparison.  Unlike those commodity goods, consumer electronics typically go down in price over time.  Cameras, televisions, hard disks, even drones just get getting cheaper and cheaper.  Only Apple seems to be able to buck this trend.  It will probably work for a few more years.  But with higher prices you get more intense competition.  It will be interesting to see where Apple is in 4-8 years when iPhone are more like the commodity goods you listed.

I think Gruber sums it up pretty well:

https://daringfireball.net/2018/10/iphone_xr_review_roundup

"A cell phone used to be just a wireless telephone. No longer. They are our ever-present personal computers. They are also our most important cameras (and often our only cameras). A decade ago, point-and-shoot cameras ran $200-400, easily. It’s your watch, it’s your alarm clock, it’s your Walkman, it’s your map and GPS. It’s your wallet full of photos of your family and friends. It’s also, increasing, your actual wallet.

If you took an iPhone XR back to 2006 people would be amazed. If you told them they could buy one for $750 they’d think you were lying.

On a related note, I would argue that iPhone prices aren’t really going up. Last year’s X and this year’s XS models are a new premium tier. The iPhone XR is the phone at the previous “regular” top-of-the-line tier. New top-tier iPhones used to cost $600-650, yes, and the iPhone XR starts at $750. But when you account for inflation that starting price is about the same. The iPhone 4 was introduced in June 2010 starting at $600. $600 in June 2010 dollars is about $700 today. That $600 got you a 16 GB iPhone in 2010. The 32 GB model cost $700. That’s about $810 in today’s dollars — $10 more than the price of a 128 GB iPhone XR, which I think is the sweet spot in the lineup for most people. Inflation adjusted, the iPhone XR is right in line with the iPhone 4 prices from 2010.

Considering how much more capable an iPhone XR is compared to an iPhone 4, I’d say $750 is an amazing bargain."

You have been drinking too much of the apple kool aid. 
The X range is not a super class tier at all. I have the Xs. It’s a great device but no better in real terms than my old 7 Plus was when that was released either in its flagship clothes. Its what I expect from apple’s best iPhone , as always. It’s not like it’s made of a special rare alloy or something.  Hardwire wise , there is nothing that unique about it. Spec wise, many android phones come with as good sceeens and not memory for much less cost.  It’s a solid device that Apple could have sold for a lot cheaper and still made a ton of money. But can’t really fault apple here if mugs like me are willing to spend a grand on it lol. 
Technology tends to get cheaper as the years go by not more expensive. (Think how DVD players got better and cheaper over the years). The iPhone is doing the opposite. That’s not good for us consumers. And whilst we could keep the device for 4 years , we probably won’t when we see what Apple releases in in the next two years (starting at just  $1200 for the top tier!) 

The issue at hand here is that you're placing an unreasonable criteria on Apple for determining value, there are no phones out there that satisfies your criteria of value as none of them possesses the attributes you've described e.g special rare alloy

Although it is true that you can find cheaper Android phones with good specifications, you ought to also understand that things cannot be compared that way, you can't isolate a specific component and compare that and extrapolate it, a phone is a highly integrated product and one needs to compare the entirety of the phone for any constructive discussion and that also means elements that aren't purely on spec sheets. 

The concept of value is by nature highly subjective, someone can say that a Porsche is of bad value because you can find another car with similar horsepower for a fraction of the price; a michelin restaurant is of bad value because you can find another cafe that also serves foie gras; a designer label shirt is bad value because you can find a shirt in a discount shop that also uses 100% cotton; you possess bad value in your job because out there somewhere in the world there is someone who can do what you do for cheaper. 

But you do understand why those comparisons are utterly disingenuous because for most of us iPhone users, the specs are just one element of the product and how we determine value isn't based entirely on the spec sheets.

I can't speak for the rest but I personally enjoy iOS's UX more than Android's and I certainly do appreciate the design/engineering details that goes into an iPhone, take for example the rounded corners of the Xr screen, for someone who doesn't care much about engineering, it would likely mean nothing to them but the display is impressive because of what Apple did (adjusting pixel size to make it possible for an LCD display to have a rounded corner with no light leak) or X/Xs's equal-bezel display, where they used a display larger than the dimensions of the phone and folded it onto itself in order to place the display controller behind the display instead of above/below the display in all other phones (hence the existence of a top/bottom bezel in android phones) ; So even though there are cheaper phones with similar specs on the spec sheets, it is cheaper exactly because those phones does not care as much about the design/engineering and UX. 

Technology does not get cheaper, stagnant/old technology does e.g your DVD player analogy, and we can all agree that the iPhone Xr packs a punch, its FaceID is undoubtedly the best in the market by a huge margin, its 7nm A12 processor beats out all other competition in the flagship phone space, its camera & ISP is one of the best in the market, I'd agree that the iPhone Xr is a rip-off if it uses last gen components but thats obviously not the case.

Hence my point simply is that to each their own, we as humans are intrinsically different, we have our own value system and its important to respect the differences of each and everyone of us, what you deem as the sole measure of value to you isn't the same as that to another person and that is perfectly fine.

"Facebook Pay will make these transactions easier while continuing to ensure your payment information is secure and protected," Notice how Facebook didn't even say that your payment information will be private and will not be monetized? Yeah.

I’m thinking of this from the perspective of cybersecurity threat vectors where ic chips and sensors on the display possibly may or can be injected with code that allows the circumvention of faceid security. 

lkrupp said:

rogifan_new said:

I don't get what one has to do with the other. I have a hard time believing there were all these people holding out on signing up for a streaming music service because Apple wasn't in the game yet. But I think this signals that Music isn't compelling enough yet to get people to ditch existing options.

Blathering nonsense. Apple Music is more than compelling over the likes of Spotify. It’s just become more fashionable to bash Apple services while claiming to be a fan of the platform.

I personally think that Apple Music's implementation was shoddy and needs major work, as of now, Apple Music's integration leaves much to be desired.