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I think you missed the main point - $800 to fix a fleck of dust under a key. 

I've blind-tested AM vs Spotify with many people over the years on my desktop HiFi system. About 3/4 instantly said Spotify was better. The others said they were close - but would prefer listening to the Spotify stream. That's 100% for the higher bitrate stream. (Dragonfly Red / Arcam DAC's).
On my big Hi-Fi rig - it's not even a comparison... the 320 mp3 outshines the 256 AAC in detail and depth. (more information for the Chord DAC to upsample). 
Tidal lossless blows them both away on most things - Tidal MQA blows everything away. Anyone with decent gear will acknowledge this. 

If you are listening with Beats, AirPods or other lo-fi consumer products... sure, it doesn't matter - Lossless means nothing to you. 
If you are listing on prosumer gear like Marantz, Denon, Yamaha, Pioneer - with sub $2k speakers and Monster Cables... you will notice a small/moderate difference. More if you have a dedicated DAC.
If you are listening on HiFi gear... it's night and day. 

This move by Spotify will be huge - and threatens Tidal more than Apple. Spotify isn't even thinking about Apple with this move. 
If Spotify licenses MQA... look out! Spotify has far better curation and larger library than Tidal. 

All I know from my 30 years with Apple - is that it will be an additional upgrade charge to have a keyboard that works...

If they keep with recent pricing models, it will cost $4199 and the charger will be an extra $399. Will require a special proprietary pointy object to open sim tray that costs $99. Special proprietary cloth to clean the screen will be $199. Earbuds sold separately. 

“ but it suggests that new Apple Silicon Macs will not be struggling to keep up with the graphics on Intel Macs.”

macxpress said:

Fidonet127 said:

With the iMacs, the most the average person could do is replace the ram. With the old iMacs, you need suction cups to pull the glass, then carefully remove the display without damaging the cables, by removing the right star screws. Once you did all that, you could replace the hard drive and OWC has a kit to replace the CD drive with another hard drive. Then you had to do all that in reverse, without damaging anything to put it back together. But yes you could do more upgrading and it was a lot of fun. I still have my suction cup kit. 

Perhaps you could, but to others point, it was very rare and isn't worth Apple's time and money to engineer/design an AIO Mac for general consumers for the less than 1% of those who will actually do it. Some think its so easy for Apple to engineer the internals with expandable access areas and while it may seem so easy it may in fact not be. How much does it screw with the cooling? The structure of the case itself? The design overall? Etc...

The 2006-2012 Cheese graters were the best selling pro computers Apple ever released in the history of the company. So I guess that completely blows your entire argument out of the water.

I have no problem buying an app from the App Store... but Apple should not collect on in-app purchases or subscriptions as they have provided no value to it. 
These developers have designed their own commerce systems at their expense... why should Apple get any piece of it when their system doesn't touch it? 
If the concern is that companies will make everything on the a App Store just a gateway - then Apple can charge the developers for hosting and marketing their products on the store - as the only way to download apps is through the store. 

aderutter said:

ajl said:

Another stupid choice from the think different verb preachers.

One should pay thousands for a machine that is supposed to last a lot years without any possibility of later upgrades?

One should spec an iMac machine to last. I always do and my non-upgraded Macs always last me at least 6 years.
The whole point of an “all in one” is a nicer looking machine while sacrificing upgradeability that most of us don’t need.
My 2014 iMac currently runs off a choice of external SSD drives so I can switch from High Sierra to Mojave to Catalina on a simple reboot.
This allows me to use 32 bit apps when necessary, old versions of XCode for older enterprise apps built with older SDKs etc. all with one 6 year old iMac.

Please explain why you have to integrate the ssd into the logic board - other than Apple can charge $3000 for a HDD repair because they are the only ones who can fix it. 

You are completely out of touch. Completely. 
Nobody is drinking Apple's Kool aid on this. 

Trash company can't even figure out how to add an image to email signatures - while every 2bit developer in the world can and has for a decade now. 
Who cares about more useless features in photos. 

Died before it got its first upgrade. 
If I were one of the 17 people who bought one I'd be worried about support.