doyoulikepie

64 gb of storage with 4 gb of ram for 1100 dollars and Apple has the audacity to call it Pro?!  The Note 10+ justifies its 1100 dollar price with 256 gb minimum storage plus SD expansion, 12 gb of ram, obviously 4x4 MIMO like they've had for years in any flagship, an S-pen, wireless powershare, 25 watt included 45 watt capable fast charging, twice as fast 15 watt wireless charging, far better screen to body ratio, larger and better quality display (see DisplayMate), time of flight sensor, an entire desktop experience with DEX over USB C, also it actually has USB C.  I'm sure I'm missing things but that's a start.... bring on the sad "BUT IOS IS THE ONLY OPTION" ignorance to try and defend this affront by Apple. 

cgWerks said:

doyoulikepie said:
There's only a grain of truth to the cross platform argument; Apple knows they have dismal RAM specs so they don't share them. In any case, conjecture is over... The first actual side by side speed tests are on YouTube. And guess what? The Note 10+ crushes the iPhone 11 pro Max, especially at RAM management... Which isn't too surprising. I expected more from the A13 chip, but no one is surprised 4gb of RAM is inadequate. 

I can't speak to this generation (and I don't care enough about it to put in any effort checking), but that hasn't been true in the past. If Apple skimped too much this time, well then bad on them.

I'd imagine that RAM will become more important as apps get more pro. Up until recently, it just didn't really matter.

I guess I care when I'm paying 1100 dollars for a premium device, but that's just me thinking about things other than Apple logos I suppose. You concede that it may matter soon/does even now yet are fine with Apple's atrocious 4 gb offering... fascinating. 12gb of ram and 256gb storage along with fingerprint reader, far faster charging, better and larger display, s pen, reverse wireless charging, DeX experience, almost identical camera experience based on SuperSaf comparison... Where's the advantage in the iPhone? 

Also, as a logical point of reference, flagship phones today have processing power similar to many desktop PCs and certainly laptop workstations. They push just as many or more pixels than most PCs. Have you ever heard of anyone ever try to argue that RAM doesn't matter on a PC or Mac?  Yet, somehow when identical computational tasks are performed on mobile devices Apple die-hards argue that RAM is totally irrelevant... please explain that logic.