vagrant

paul turner said:

vagrant said:

Wow.  Just wow.  I had heard about the Reality Distortion Field, but I never really believed it until now.  Do you guys ever read the rest of the Internet, or do you just stay on this site and jerk each other off?



There's nothing in the iPhone that hadn't already been done before on some other phone.  The brilliant thing that Jobs did was line up all the parts manufacturers and make the phone that people had been asking for, rather than taking the safe route like the moron MBAs at mobile hardware companies.  I bought the first iPhone and I loved it.  Not because, "OMG I never imagined a phone could be like this!" but because, "Finally someone manufactured the phone we have all been asking for!"

Pot calling the kettle black : You need to check your own revisionist history making


"There nothing in the iPhone that hasn't ben done before on some other phone>"

If you means the actual components in side the phone you may be right but come on , you know perfectly well that when the iPhone came out there was a chorus so loud saying it was:

1) Over priced
2) couldn't exist without a hardware keyboard
3) was a toy for mac fanboys

etc etc.

No other phone before it was able to:
1) do smooth scrolling
2) non sequential voicemail
3) a real desktop quality browser, with real pinch to zoom

to name a few 

All the phones on the market completely failed at most of these and were unable to match it in performance and Battery life.

So please stop it with your obvious lies. Do you actually remember the default phones back then? Feature phones with tiny screen with that ridiculous outmoded Symbian OS.

So, Apple invented smooth scrolling, non-sequential voicemail, pinch to zoom, and desktop quality browsers?  Or they added "on a phone"?

I give Apple full credit for putting, in one package, all the things people had been begging for.  The smooth scrolling comes from Apple's careful control of the hardware and software, which I like.  The non-sequential was not invented, but was rather part of the exclusive deal they made with ATT.  Apple implemented those things, and did an awesome job at it, well worth the extra money, but they did not invent those things.  Are you saying that Android copied the IOS implementation?

Apple added "on a phone", and made some deals with AT&T and parts suppliers.  Their implementation is excellent, but no one copied their implementation.  "on a phone" was the part that was copied.  And Apple has full bragging rights, and $200B in the bank to show for it.

Yes, Google was trying to get rid of Flash from day one.  Certainly from at least five years ago.  But rather than just chop it out completely, they realized that a huge portion of the Internet used it, so they were pushing for a gradual transition to HTML 5.  And it's been working.  If individual hardware manufacturers were touting Flash compatibility, take it up with them.

No, I don't speak for Google.  That doesn't mean I don't have an opinion.

What is it that you think Google blatantly copied from the iPhone to Android?  Rounded corners and a touchscreen?  That's hardware, not Android, and those things were already on the market.  And array of icons?  Those were already on desktops.   Multi-touch gestures?  Anyone who's seen Minority Report knows that Apple didn't "invent" that. Apple had the guts to put together the package that people wanted, Apple was first to market with the complete package, and Apple has been richly rewarded, having been catapulted to the position of most valuable company in the world with $200B in the bank.  At best, Android copied a few things from the same places that Apple copied them, just as Apple copied some of the same things that Android copied.

I love Apple.  I have an Apple laptop.  Best UI there is, bar none.  I owned the iPhones 1 and 3 and thought they were great.  Except Android let me get stuff done faster by not dumbing down the UI, so I switched.  I think Apple is an amazing innovator and industry leader.  Steve Jobs was revered at Google, and his death was one of the few times when Google posted a memorial on their front page.  But Apple didn't invent any of those things.  They packaged them up the right way.