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This requires the source code. And it would be greatly helped along if the people who wrote that source code also did the work. Not having the source code or the people most up to date with it is not a plan for an easy task, it's a plan for a very risky hack job.

Apple could easily do this and return the phone to the FBI, never having revealed the source code they wrote to achieve the feat.

John McAfee on the other hand, not a good plan.

Here is the full document, only three pages and an easy read:
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2714001/SB-Shooter-Order-Compelling-Apple-Asst-iPhone.pdf

Apple's refusal to help with a terror investigation where 14 people were butchered has erased my sympathy and appreciation for them. At this point I am ready to see Tim Cook perp walked into a jail cell and am now annoyed it has not yet been done.

What has been asked of them is easy for Apple to do and would cost them nothing. The court has directed that Apple be paid for its work. The court allowed that Apple could contain the work to their own facility. The court order makes it clear that the hack should be keyed to the phone's unique identity and that it must not work on any other phone. If Apple has further concerns over containing their modified OS they should propose additional security safeguards. Be a part of the solution, haggle this thing out. Not pull a Public Relations stunt, which is all this is truly about.

For example Apple could have proposed:

1. No network connectivity. Do the work on isolated, stand-alone computers.

2. Isolation from cell tower and wi-fi signals. This can be done with commercially available jammers or a Faraday cage room. Or both.

3. No viewing of the OS source code by non-Apple employees.

4. The phone leaves Apple facility only with the original OS and content restored, not with the altered OS.

5. Apple makes it clear they will destroy the work when finished. They should not do that, but they are behaving like spoiled brats so I expect them to do this anyway.

The only reason Cook is not making such a counter offer is because he does not want to be involved in solving crimes. Not even if he is paid to do so. Because the world's troubles are not Apple's concern, only PROFIT is Apple's concern.

Snowden is a traitor who deserves arrest, trial and a long period of imprisonment. He is unlikely to get that, but one can dream happy thoughts...

matrix077 said:

yojimbo007 said:

Ridiculous short sighted paranoia .. Unlocking a phone by a court order is not the same as a back door…. Or conpromising an activly encrypted phone when in use. Plus Government can search my home with the proper court order. The most privet place to me . Government can tap my land line with court order. And has for decades with proper court order. Government can confiscate my computets with proper court order and search the HD… ( iphone is a pocket computer ) This is not an either or case …… Its way more complex and consequential to just leave it in hands of dogmatic idealism . Creat the proper provisions and everyone wins. Times changes… so should we… … Thats fundimental to survival. In the meanwhile apple is loving the Publicity .. ……. It may even all be by design …..(. After all its months we have been screaming for apple PR to wake up)..lol

What part of "Authoritarian governments including Russia and China will demand greater access to mobile data should Apple lose a watershed encryption case brought by the FBI" you don't understand?

What part of "Russia and China can that now or any time they want no matter what comes of this ruckus" do you not understand?

We needed the encryption bill, this is true. Just one more reason why something like 87% of Americans despise the US Congress.

That said, I do hope a law comes out of this to punish people like Tim Cook who are so pathetically incapable of comprehending the damage he does to society with his elitist attitude.

Apple's position on this is absurd. They should be working to devise a way to comply with the order and maintain security of all other products. The two goals are not incompatible. For example, require the work be physically contained and under Apple's control. The terrorist's phone does not leave the Apple facility. The FBI works with Apple's people on Apple's property with the agreement that the phone does not leave Apple's control with the work-around loaded into it.

The entire attitude should be about getting this job done while maintaining the security of everyone else.

Short of this or some approach along a similar line of thinking, the FBI should seek Tim Cook's arrest, fines and a period of imprisonment for Contempt of Court. If that fails to obtain the necessary response, further prosecution should follow.