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A very false narrative: Samsung Galaxy S8 vs Apple's iPhone
It's not like there is a pot with a pre-set dollar amount of profit and Apple is the first to grab it. Asian companies are VERY much more apt at being streamlined and running on less profit.....they know how to squeeze everything out to it's max. If XYZ company makes as much profit as it "needs" then what good is it to the customer to squeeze more out of them? It is quite obvious that Apple would love to increase their marketshare by bringing down the entry costs to getting an apple phone.StrangeDays said:
Clearly that's pure opinion on your part and not fact based whatsoever.rogifan_new said:
Clearly if DED was confident about Apple he wouldn't need to write these overly defensive and biased editorials. Same with everyone who throws out the Apple makes the most profit argument as if the only measure of success is generating massive profits. I don't remember Apple fans in the past being so obsessed with how much profit it makes.StrangeDays said:
Your employers must be worried because you're always worried that AI is worried.rogifan_new said:So AI must be worried about Samsung and the S8 becoming popular otherwise no reason to write this piece.
Profit as a metric in debates about platform matter because 1) profit means people are voting with their dollars. 2) profit is the air corporations breathe, not market share. Note that even you would not be foolish enough to argue Mercedes was "worried" about their market share compared to Honda and Toyota. Yeah, because it doesn't matter to anyone but those looking to win pretend arguments on a rumor site. Profit share always trumps market share.
I have never understood how more profit for Apple is good for the average customer.....are you guys getting secret cheques from Apple?
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A very false narrative: Samsung Galaxy S8 vs Apple's iPhone
It's a typical Daniel Eran Digler article...He goes on some wild tangent about what may or may not have happened 15 years ago as if it is relevent to today so his bias looks current. Like seriously what does Samsung's 5 year head start have to do with today's smartphone market share?avon b7 said:
Bias isn't a bad thing per se. We all have an element of It. When necessary we can all filter much of that bias out. I've worked in government and know how important it is to gIve everyone the same treatment Iindependently of my own personal opinion or feelings.muthuk_vanalingam said:
I agree with the sentiment that DED articles cannot be considered balanced, but somehow I found this article to be a balanced one. May be, my own biases!!!avon b7 said:
You are posting in thread hanging off a DED article. Balance is not something that springs to mind.minglok50 said:You are citing `the Verge as a credible balanced site...
In this article it's his opinion but as usual soaked in bias. Sometimes I get through them, others I don't. This time I didn't.
I'm not forced to read them.
I think in this article I hit on two unbalanced points and then threw in the towel.
One was the stab at facial recognition. The company tells you you shouldn't use it as a security feature and it won't even allow you to make payments with it. On the other hand they offer you an iris scanner which no iPhone has, and AFAIK at this point, is very secure. Nevertheless it seems ok to take a gratuitous poke at facial recognition because it is 'weak' and just skip the iris scanner, as mentioning that would make the stab less effective.
Of course, to work, you would need some kind of ssocial engineering. You need a photo of the person. The last time I checked, Apple would allow you to not even set a passcode and would definitely accept ultra weak passcode. In that regard, it is just as weak as facial recognition.
The other point was services. The article's sets out the stand very clearly. S8. iPhone. The lead in then just opens the door to everything under the sun because it wants to include historical context (biased of course :-))
But why did it slam Samsung's entire mobile division with that direct non historical comparison to Apple Services? The relevance of Services is very recent and is derived from the entire Apple spectrum, not just iPhone. I didn't see any balance there.
It's true that I just stopped reading anyway so maybe there was some kind of justification elsewhere in the article. Anyway, that's how I saw when I started reading.
Would he bash Apple computer sales to ASUS even though Apple was founded 13 years prior?.....Makes absolutely no sense! -
A very false narrative: Samsung Galaxy S8 vs Apple's iPhone
You are VERY misinformed. Samsung had phones named Plus in 2011......I hope you are not "shameless" in your apology to your colleague. Obviously your colleague isvery open minded and likes the Samsung S8 Plus.....perhaps you should open your mind and try Android.....you will be surprised at how well it works. Reading articles from Daniel Eran Digler will not give you a realistic idea of other devices that are out there.fasterquieter said:I needed this article today. I have a colleague who just got her S8 Plus and keeps waving it in my face to irritate me (they even copied the "Plus" now! they are shameless). It isn't worth my time trying to explain to her why she is wrong. I do find it completely baffling though. She has an iPad and loves it. How can she not see how superior iOS is if she uses both operating systems every day? As far as I can tell the thing she loves about the S8 is that it has a nice screen. The kind of screen Apple have obviously been working towards and will come out with in September. Except it will be implemented more thoughtfully and will be better, as always. People are strange.
