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Whoa whoa whoa! Hold on a minute. Zune Marketplace was absolutely ill-fated. But “abysmal content delivery product” is a gross mischaracterization. By Gen 3 Microsoft, in 2008, had competitive hardware for the day and in most respects better software and services than Apple has in Apple Music today.to make way for the ill-fated Zune Marketplace and other similarly abysmal content delivery products.
Sure, Zune had long since been panned by consumer electronics blogs, but gen 3 hardware was legit. The desktop software would still hold up against Spotify and Apple Music in terms of usability and vastly outclasses either in style. The music exploration and recommendations were excellent. I still miss the playback visualizations. They had social features baked in and had a web music player that was a first class citizen in their ecosystem. You could cast music between devices before the word “casting” had been coined. Zune Pass gave you access to unlimited streaming of 14 million tracks and let you keep 10 each month. While Apple was raising digital downloads to $1.29/track, Microsoft was offering discounted annual subscriptions at $149. It was the equivalent of buying 10 songs on iTunes each month plus $1.75/mo for unlimited streaming.
Zune lost the battle of mind share, but 13 years later I’m still waiting for someone to step up and revive the golden age of streaming music.
lightvox88 said:Exactly. It was already more than cable before, and now it's just ridiculous. 30% increase!?! Who would be interested in this? People with money to burn...It can depend heavily on what’s available in your area. The ONLY cable option to our home is Comcast.The cheapest package I can seem to get from Comcast is $80 once you add in hidden fees for HD content and local sports broadcast fees. This is literally double their advertised price.
YT TV isn’t what any of us hoped Internet TV would be, but it’s still 20% cheaper than Comcast for a significantly better lineup and features that would raise the price of a Comcast package even higher.
Oh the humanity! Not the personalized ads!Can anyone imagine an Internet where multi billion dollar companies had to provide a product that was compelling enough for users to actually reach into their wallet and pay? Where sites competed on the merit of their content rather than who’s algorithm and a/b testing has created the quickest dopamine hit?Yes I’ve been watching The Social Dilemma on Netflix. And yes I appreciate the conflict of interest in a video streaming service creating a documentary on the horrors of being addicted to services that compete for your attention. And yes I appreciate the irony of posting all this on an Internet forum with at least some subliminal desire of coming back later to find it got a few likes.
There's some preliminary documentation on the new Media intent domain here:
It looks like full 3rd party support for music, TV, movies, podcasts, and audiobooks is coming. It would require developers to implement the new domain, but this seems like something they would be quick to jump on.
This seems like such a big deal that the fact that it didn't make the keynote makes me skeptical about it coming out at launch for iOS 12. Might be a 12.3 kind of thing??
Here's a list of what is considered media:
mpantone said:Google had worked on this before Apple did.
Google had a physical debit card long before Apple Card: it was the Google Wallet card which was discontinued in 2016.
Up through 2015, the Google Wallet card had NFC, something Apple Card does not have. In this case, Apple cribbed from Google.
Of course, none of the underlying technology is new.
The Japanese have been using cellphones as NFC contactless transit passes since 2005. The Suica card can be used as payment at many stores as well.
Many technology companies' offerings are copied from others. Apple did not invent any of this. They did encourage adoption.
Hell, the NFC contactless chip isn't even theirs. It's from NXP, a Dutch semiconductor company that was spun off from Philips. The old Amex Blue cards from the late 90s-early 2000s had a Philips cryptocontroller chip embedded in the card. There was a corresponding USB card reader that you'd plug into your PC that basically acted as a form of two-factor authentication for online purchases.
In the early 2010s, most of my credit cards had NFC contactless chips but adoption in the USA was so poor that the major credit card issuing banks stop issuing these cards and by 2015, most of my cards had gone back to being dumb pieces of plastic.
The United States consumer finance market is anywhere between 10 and 20 years behind the rest of the industrialized world. It is really slowing down the speed of innovations in this area.
Forcing Apple to allow competing stores on iOS is not as terrible as many are making it out to be.I prefer the peace of mind I get from downloading apps from the App Store. If other stores are made available I will simply not download apps from them. If a developer wants to reach me as a user they will need to submit their app to the App Store.