morgle

ericthehalfbee said:

morgle said:

ericthehalfbee said:

morgle said:

ericthehalfbee said:

gatorguy said:

ericthehalfbee said:

gatorguy said:

ericthehalfbee said:

gatorguy said:

bb-15 said:

saltyzip said:

I'm sure all that extra performance makes Facebook, WhatsApp and phone calls rock, not!

The value of speed in a smartphone includes; 1. Intensive games like Fortnite. 

I think @ericthehalfbee is actually testing how much  better the gaming performance of Fornite is on his iPhone compared to a couple of other higher-end Android phones. 

To really test performance you need to perform tasks where the completion time can be measured. Like rendering a video, applying complex effects to a photo or recalculating a complex spreadsheet.

But you have no way of comparing those as you've said before and you were the one that offered to if presented with some other apps that COULD be tested.  I offered two that my son knew both he and his friends have played in competitions on both Android and iOS. I'm no gamer myself, nor someone who would do their photo processing on a smartphone for that matter.

No doubt there may be some smallish percentage of users like you who really do their "complex photo processing" on their smartphone or do "complex spreadsheet computations" on one, but wouldn't gaming  be a far more common use (perhaps THE most common use based on app store revenues) and and a more insightful comparison? Personally I think it would be a great real-life everyday measuring stick. Just my .02

But if you can't compare 'em yourself,  fair enough. While AI found the X and Note were a toss-up (thanks for that link) the dropped frames on the Note compared to the XS is certainly a plus in Apple's favor. 

EDIT: A cursory look on YouTube indicates game loading on Battlefields and Fortnite is much faster on the XS compared to the Galaxy, and by a significant amount. Game play itself is reported as pretty much on par with each other. But again I'm no gamer so cannot comment from personal experience. 

Thats not what I said. I said there are no high-end Apps on Android to allow a comparison against iOS equivalents.


So I’ll ask again: Can any of you Android users select some Apps for me to compare to make this fair?

Huh? I'm pretty sure I just gave you two to test for yourself: Battlefield and Fortnite. The same ones I gave you exactly a week ago but you never got around to. 

Huh? I’m pretty sure I....

- Already stated why games are a poor example as results are subjective.
- Linked to the AI article on Fortnite so there’s no need to repeat a test someone has already done anyway.
- Have been the person on AI to repeatedly ask others for Apps to compare, making countless others here the ones who “never got around to it”.

Don’t try to turn this back on me.

YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Slack, Evernote, Trello, Maps or navigation. But if the performance results of games per device is subjective, wouldn't all other performance results be subjective?

Isn’t that cute. One of the brand-new accounts created yesterday thinks they can play with the big boys.

Are you dense, or do you have reading comprehension issues? I already stated in this thread you need to test something that takes considerable processor power (and thus, can be timed/measured). Not one of the Apps you mentioned requires significant power to run.

Why don’t you list some Apps that perform tasks I mentioned? Like video or photo editing? Or any other App you can think of. The only requirements are that they do something that stresses a processor and allows you to perform a measurement (how long to complete a task or how many tasks you can complete).

To help you, here are a three examples:

- Encoding a video. One device takes 20 seconds, another takes 40 seconds. Pretty easy to measure performance and which device is faster.
- Real-time mixing audio. One device can mix 48 tracks, the other can only do 24. Again, easy to determine a winner.
- A complex spreadsheet. One device can recalculate in under 1 second, the other takes 2-3 seconds.

Tasker

You’re either a complete idiot or a troll. First off, Tasker doesn’t require any processor power. Second, Tasker isn’t available for iOS making it impossible to do a comparison.

ericthehalfbee said:

morgle said:

ericthehalfbee said:

gatorguy said:

ericthehalfbee said:

gatorguy said:

ericthehalfbee said:

gatorguy said:

bb-15 said:

saltyzip said:

I'm sure all that extra performance makes Facebook, WhatsApp and phone calls rock, not!

The value of speed in a smartphone includes; 1. Intensive games like Fortnite. 

I think @ericthehalfbee is actually testing how much  better the gaming performance of Fornite is on his iPhone compared to a couple of other higher-end Android phones. 

To really test performance you need to perform tasks where the completion time can be measured. Like rendering a video, applying complex effects to a photo or recalculating a complex spreadsheet.

But you have no way of comparing those as you've said before and you were the one that offered to if presented with some other apps that COULD be tested.  I offered two that my son knew both he and his friends have played in competitions on both Android and iOS. I'm no gamer myself, nor someone who would do their photo processing on a smartphone for that matter.

No doubt there may be some smallish percentage of users like you who really do their "complex photo processing" on their smartphone or do "complex spreadsheet computations" on one, but wouldn't gaming  be a far more common use (perhaps THE most common use based on app store revenues) and and a more insightful comparison? Personally I think it would be a great real-life everyday measuring stick. Just my .02

But if you can't compare 'em yourself,  fair enough. While AI found the X and Note were a toss-up (thanks for that link) the dropped frames on the Note compared to the XS is certainly a plus in Apple's favor. 

EDIT: A cursory look on YouTube indicates game loading on Battlefields and Fortnite is much faster on the XS compared to the Galaxy, and by a significant amount. Game play itself is reported as pretty much on par with each other. But again I'm no gamer so cannot comment from personal experience. 

Thats not what I said. I said there are no high-end Apps on Android to allow a comparison against iOS equivalents.


So I’ll ask again: Can any of you Android users select some Apps for me to compare to make this fair?

Huh? I'm pretty sure I just gave you two to test for yourself: Battlefield and Fortnite. The same ones I gave you exactly a week ago but you never got around to. 

Huh? I’m pretty sure I....

- Already stated why games are a poor example as results are subjective.
- Linked to the AI article on Fortnite so there’s no need to repeat a test someone has already done anyway.
- Have been the person on AI to repeatedly ask others for Apps to compare, making countless others here the ones who “never got around to it”.

Don’t try to turn this back on me.

YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Slack, Evernote, Trello, Maps or navigation. But if the performance results of games per device is subjective, wouldn't all other performance results be subjective?

Isn’t that cute. One of the brand-new accounts created yesterday thinks they can play with the big boys.

Are you dense, or do you have reading comprehension issues? I already stated in this thread you need to test something that takes considerable processor power (and thus, can be timed/measured). Not one of the Apps you mentioned requires significant power to run.

Why don’t you list some Apps that perform tasks I mentioned? Like video or photo editing? Or any other App you can think of. The only requirements are that they do something that stresses a processor and allows you to perform a measurement (how long to complete a task or how many tasks you can complete).

To help you, here are a three examples:

- Encoding a video. One device takes 20 seconds, another takes 40 seconds. Pretty easy to measure performance and which device is faster.
- Real-time mixing audio. One device can mix 48 tracks, the other can only do 24. Again, easy to determine a winner.
- A complex spreadsheet. One device can recalculate in under 1 second, the other takes 2-3 seconds.

ericthehalfbee said:

gatorguy said:

ericthehalfbee said:

gatorguy said:

ericthehalfbee said:

gatorguy said:

bb-15 said:

saltyzip said:

I'm sure all that extra performance makes Facebook, WhatsApp and phone calls rock, not!

The value of speed in a smartphone includes; 1. Intensive games like Fortnite. 

I think @ericthehalfbee is actually testing how much  better the gaming performance of Fornite is on his iPhone compared to a couple of other higher-end Android phones. 

To really test performance you need to perform tasks where the completion time can be measured. Like rendering a video, applying complex effects to a photo or recalculating a complex spreadsheet.

But you have no way of comparing those as you've said before and you were the one that offered to if presented with some other apps that COULD be tested.  I offered two that my son knew both he and his friends have played in competitions on both Android and iOS. I'm no gamer myself, nor someone who would do their photo processing on a smartphone for that matter.

No doubt there may be some smallish percentage of users like you who really do their "complex photo processing" on their smartphone or do "complex spreadsheet computations" on one, but wouldn't gaming  be a far more common use (perhaps THE most common use based on app store revenues) and and a more insightful comparison? Personally I think it would be a great real-life everyday measuring stick. Just my .02

But if you can't compare 'em yourself,  fair enough. While AI found the X and Note were a toss-up (thanks for that link) the dropped frames on the Note compared to the XS is certainly a plus in Apple's favor. 

EDIT: A cursory look on YouTube indicates game loading on Battlefields and Fortnite is much faster on the XS compared to the Galaxy, and by a significant amount. Game play itself is reported as pretty much on par with each other. But again I'm no gamer so cannot comment from personal experience. 

Thats not what I said. I said there are no high-end Apps on Android to allow a comparison against iOS equivalents.


So I’ll ask again: Can any of you Android users select some Apps for me to compare to make this fair?

Huh? I'm pretty sure I just gave you two to test for yourself: Battlefield and Fortnite. The same ones I gave you exactly a week ago but you never got around to. 

Huh? I’m pretty sure I....

- Already stated why games are a poor example as results are subjective.
- Linked to the AI article on Fortnite so there’s no need to repeat a test someone has already done anyway.
- Have been the person on AI to repeatedly ask others for Apps to compare, making countless others here the ones who “never got around to it”.

Don’t try to turn this back on me.