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  • Epic Games wanted a special deal for 'Fortnite' on the App Store

    ITGUYINSD said:
    qwerty52 said:
    This new fact confirms what there is behind Epic’s shouting and crying about Apple’s monopoly and about absence of freedom in AppStore.
    Money, money and ones again money!
    There really wasn’t any question about it. If Epic could have shown they have been damaged by paying Apple 30%, then they might have a point in this lawsuit. What they have shown is that Apple made them a lot of money and took care of the hosting, billing and bookkeeping for Fortnite for 30% of billions. 

    Those poor bastards.
    Hosting?  Apple doesn't host the game servers.  They host the server where a tiny app lives that Apple forces Epic customer to download from.  That's it.  Once downloaded, Apple's job is done.  Why should Apple get 30% for "billing and bookkeeping" when Epic is perfectly capable of doing that itself if not for the fact that Apple forces them to go through Apple and pay 30%?  I wonder how many bookkeepers in the companies of the world get 30% of the companies revenue (not profit, but gross revenue)?  I'd venture a guess of practically NONE.

    To be fair, Epic should charge $1.99 for the app, and Apple gets 30% of that.  Then, all the IAP's are through Epic payment systems since Apple has nothing to do with that.  
    Buddy, Apple promotes the games , delver the games, keep malware from infecting customers, and deliver software updates in a seamless manner. If your ide is executed all games and apps will be free on App Store because app developers can use charge customers after purchase.

    how will Apple survive without charging money? You think Apple is Charity? 

    You don’t know how a business works ... clearly 
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  • Epic Games wanted a special deal for 'Fortnite' on the App Store

    elijahg said:
    So Epic wanted a special deal like Amazon has, but Apple refused because as Cook said, every dev has the same App Store agreement. Seems he forgot that Apple gave Amazon a special deal. Oops.

    Of course Apple should get a cut of the fees Epic charges, no one doubts that. It's the amount Apple charges for things like IAPs that don't send one bit of data through Apple's servers that devs have an issue with. And the fact that Apple doesn't allow devs to mention alternative purchasing methods within the app, and forces devs to charge the same on the App Store for things as they do elsewhere. That's probably the biggest anticompetitive aspect that governments aren't happy with.

    If Epic thinks they're going to get a store within a store they're mistaken - though WeChat is a store and Apple is fine with that, because they know without it the market for iPhones in China will collapse.
    Your argument is not sound because Epic games don’t have the same influence as they do with WeChat

    Every customer will get special treatment if they are VIP. That’s jusT how the real world works.

    If you run a restaurant and a customer orders a $100k bottle of champagne, wouldn’t you give that customer special treatment?

    Disingenuous argument.


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