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  • Apple will have a hand in every detail of the 'Apple Car,' analysts say

    byronl said:
    GeeAye said:
    byronl said:
    It's a CAR SERVICE. You subscribe. Access to certain amount of hours or types of vehicles. It's for urban markets. It will save you the waste of paying for a car that mainly sits in your driveway most of its life. These isn't a more wasteful and 19th century technology and system in place than automobiles right now.
    i agree but tesla is so far ahead in self driving how will apple compete. i’m sure they can outdo tesla in interior design and quality but they need the self driving.

    Isn't that what they said about blackberry in the smart phone market?
    LMAO you obviously have no idea about how far ahead tesla is in self driving and how they got there. what companies like google, waymo, cruise, apple and most others are doing is use lidar and hd human annotated 3d maps. they map out a space with lidar and have humans annotated. this is very expensive and almost impossible to scale. all these companies are doing it in fractions of countries, let alone many countries or the whole world. tesla has a different approach. they use vision, just like humans. but, the reason why they’ve been able to do that is because of their GIANT data collection fleet of vehicles. tesla has collected all the data from customer bought cars to train their AI and it’s next level. apple and others can’t compete with that. watch tesla’s AI day and educate yourself about self driving, watch some experts’ reaction to tesla AI day. 
    sorry for the duplicate comment but it’s basically the same reply
    LMAO you just said something is "very expensive and almost impossible to scale" with regard to Apple. 

    I like Tesla, and Musk (as far as his work goes anyway), but we'll see how quickly even they get to full automated driving. The only AI day thing I have seen so far though is Musk "unveiling" his humanoid robot by way of having a dude in a unitard robot costume dance to EDM on stage.
    If you actually look into Waymo’s strategy (which is pretty much Apple’s strategy too) for autonomous vehicles, it is stupendously difficult to scale. They are mapping out entire cities and equipping third-party vehicles with expensive LIDAR systems, essentially operating their vehicles on virtual rails. On the other hand, Tesla is rapidly developing a system that operates on computer vision and a powerful neural network backed by an incredible supercomputer - Dojo. Whereas Waymo’s autonomous solution could only be deployed in big cities and remain geo-fenced, Tesla’s autonomous solution will eventually allow their vehicles to adapt to changing driving environments, so they’ll be able to go anywhere. 

    You’ve only seen the Tesla Bot from AI Day because instead of actually watching it, you only observed headlines and articles about it. AI day was around 2 hours long, and Tesla Bot was maybe only 10 minutes of the entire presentation, and it was announced that the END of AI Day. Most MSM only care about clicks, and they knew that the meat of AI Day wouldn’t generate the clicks they so desired. They went with relentlessly reporting on the Tesla Bot announcement instead of the almost 2 hours worth of inspiring work that the AI software and hardware teams have been doing. 

     If you actually watch the presentation, it’s very cutting-edge stuff when it comes to computer vision and autonomous driving. Feel free to not watch the Tesla Bot part, which again, is at the end of the presentation. Besides, AI Day was largely a recruiting event for Tesla, and the Tesla Bot was announced in huge part to attract AI talent. Because the truth is, there is AI talent out there that don’t want to work on ad algorithms. They want to work on challenging yet positively world-changing stuff like Spot or the Tesla Bot. 
    byronl