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roake said:

globby said:

gatorguy said:

What would Apple say if you asked them?

Apple made a nearly identical rights claim change in its Terms of Service at the end of March, worded in much the same way but far more vaguely. But no one noticed. Perhaps that's why Apple has never clarified what it means, either. My guess is the same as Adobe's, but like them, Apple ( and everyone else) needs to be clearer on it.

"Except to the extent prohibited by law, you hereby grant Apple a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, nonexclusive license to use the materials you submit within the Services and related marketing as well as to use the materials you submit for Apple internal purposes. Apple may monitor and decide to remove or edit any submitted material, including via automated content filters and/or human review." 

There are too many questions surrounding how our data is being used across all LLM training and delivered AI services. Companies try to avoid discussing it unless the questions become too public. For Adobe they did.

Er ... except that the context for those Apple terms is totally different: "Our Services may allow you to submit or post materials such as comments, ratings and reviews, pictures, videos, and podcasts (including associated metadata and artwork)." That's totally different from what we thought Adobe was claiming.

Anyone can read it here in context: 

K. YOUR SUBMISSIONS TO OUR SERVICES

Our Services may allow you to submit or post materials such as comments, ratings and reviews, pictures, videos, and podcasts (including associated metadata and artwork). Your use of such features must comply with the Submissions Guidelines below, which may be updated from time to time, and if we become aware of materials that violate our Submission Guidelines we will remove them. If you see materials that do not comply with the Submissions Guidelines, including any offensive, abusive, or illegal content, please let us know at reportaproblem.apple.com or by contacting Apple Support. Except to the extent prohibited by law, you hereby grant Apple a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, nonexclusive license to use the materials you submit within the Services and related marketing as well as to use the materials you submit for Apple internal purposes. Apple may monitor and decide to remove or edit any submitted material, including via automated content filters and/or human review. 

GatorGuy would make an excellent CNN reporter.  Enough said.

And here I was thinking a Fox News entertainer, because of the ridiculous levels of whataboutism, deflection, denial, low-key histrionics, lack of substantiating facts, and blatantly manipulating the context. (Also, who the eff unironically uses “Enough said” like it’s some kind of snappy mic-drop? Gag me with a spoon.)

PS - Continually restating false statements after being roundly de-bunked, that was another red flag.

Break up the leech!

It used to be that the comments on AI used to be mostly relevant, civil-ish, and reasonably informative. But now .. honestly I give up. Comments have become, on the whole, garbage. I’m out.

NYC362 said:

As the rather secretive CEO of a company that values its secrets more than anything else, I find it really hard to believe that Tim Cook called a person known for blabbering about anything and everything to complain about the EU.

If anyone here has ever worked for Apple, you'll know exactly how I feel.  It just isn't in the Apple DNA for something like this to have happened.

If it did, it is shocking.  

Yeah, that’s what my take was, also. But there’s a little part of me that wonders if Cook may have just mentioned it in passing … nothing specific other than its recency. In Trump’s brain, that’s as good as asking for a hit on the European president 

phillyfanatic09 said:

I’m always amazed at the criticism around these events. I’m not sure what the critics actually want. A phone that wipes for you?

 Samsung is infamous for throwing out new features that are half-baked but make a splash only to have them disappear in a generation or two. Sometimes they get refined to be generally useful as well. That’s not Apple.

The Dynamic Island, Action Button and now the Capture Button are all useful, if not earthshaking innovations. Crash Detection, Satellite SOS and now messaging are invaluable if you need them. Hardware Ray Tracing. Even USB C on the Pro Phones is far more capable than just charging and simple data transfer. 

Phones are a mature technology. advances will mainly be iterative especially in hardware. The iPhone 16 is a significant upgrade on the iPhone 15 and the 16 Pro is a modest upgrade on the 15 Pro. Given that people keep their phones for two or three years or longer, that’s fine.

Agreed. I’ve the feeling that if some of these trolls were napping, it’s because this cycle’s update’s aren’t aimed at them — and per usual, their opinions don’t amount to much more than weird carping.

Both I (iPhone 16 Pro Max) and my partner K (iPhone 14 Pro Max) see the advantages for what we do, which are photo and video heavy, as well as development and gaming. Other partner J has recently switched to the iPhone Pro, for similar reasons. Plus, there’s finally a reason for us to update the network at home with WiFi7 in the near future (we luckily live in a confluence of 5G UW points, as well).

If you’re in any kind of upgrade program, this is simply a no-brainer.

Uhhhh… isn’t it the other way around? The developers are battling Apple in court, not Apple suing them. So let’s not obscure who the instigators are, yes?

hammeroftruth said:

Was it that, or was it that the economy worldwide isn’t doing that great and the EU is picking its battles a little more wisely.  US retail numbers aren’t too good and I don’t expect the EU’s numbers to be much better. 

doucheynameoftruth said:

prof said:

You're so horribly misguided in your smear piece but one question that keeps on popping up in my head: Why the frog do you even give a shit? Cui bono? As you've said so eloquently yourself: We Europeans have not requested your opinion and are even less looking for you to be our saviour. If Apple decides that the European market is not relevant enough to comply with the DMA; fair game to not serve it or less well then. I'm thinking hard of desirable features which are missing, I can truly live without the (botched!) Apple AI and US people do envy us for the ability to have third party app stores already... If you want to moan and bitch about bonkus laws, try the UK for the back door requirements or the US for their spy laws... oh wait, supposedly doesn't bother you due to being a US citizen: frog the f off!

Says the person who elected themselves spokesperson for all EU nations/citizens. 

Let me point out that the security and intelligence apparatus of EU member nations are nothing to crow about. Also, I and many others in the U.S. detest the panopticon wannabe that has developed over here. But I’m not in the intelligence community, and I doubt you are either.

And please, don’t lump us all together when choosing your phrasing?

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While I do wish the article went into the nitty-gritty of the politics, I also realize the behind-the-scenes action will likely remain largely opaque, even to journalists. Yet it’s a tad disappointing that the writer seems to just repeat theme of “this will slow development”. I’m not sure this quite flies, as each market already has unique requirements and challenges, leading to the kind of staggered regulatory roll-out we’ve seen as users. There’s perhaps an argument here that regulators are unnecessarily hampering Apple’s competitiveness in the market, which then harms both consumers, as well as shareholders.

I think Apple has a stronger case is in the arguments that these compatibility demands (and they are demands) conflict with the EUs privacy initiatives. Which they seemingly do, on the face of it. I’d also remind readers that Apple the corporate entity has some expectation of privacy, and shouldn’t be required to broadcast their product investments or schedule.

However, there is no denying that from where I’m sitting, these actions by the EC reek of political retribution couched in smiles. Whether it’s regionalism, a response to this Administration’s bizarreness, or pay-back for the Irish tax situation, the EC has a lot of incentive to be petty and all too human.

There’s a reason r/fuckepic has 49k members 

Alrescha said:

I'm waiting for Apple to start selling the "Apple Phone".  No App Store, just Apple's preinstalled software.  The beginning of the end of Apple's egalitarian experiment.

Yeah, and developers can just deliver web apps.