Respite

tech_traveller said:

Stabitha_Christie said:

tech_traveller said:

Probably isn't going to be so special if you have to worry so much about negative reviews.

Regardless, this device will probably be well received, but it wouldn't be an iPhone replacement. Not for the next decade.

What a strange comment. Apple isn’t promoting Vision Pro as an iPhone replacement. So yeah, it’s not going to be an iPhone replacement it also won’t replace the Apple Watch, your car, oven and shower. 

Many people on this forum and Reddit are considering this device to be the one which replaces iPhones, just like iPhones did for iPods cutting off Microsoft's chance before the Zune could even compete, they hope the same will happen to Android based phones. I made the comment addressing that mentality about it, history isn't going to repeat this instance.

In my opinion it's going to be a separate niche category and isn't going to replace phones anytime soon, though it heavily depends upon the advancement of the technology.

9secondkox2 said:

Nice try Tim. 

But this is nothing like the iPhone launch or even the Mac. 

This is more like the Apple Watch launch. 

It’s fine for what it is. The best vr/ar headset out there. But let’s stop pretending it’s more than that. 

Stabitha_Christie said:

Wesley Hilliard said:

tht said:

What do you mean by dramatic? What changed in the operating system? How about some UI screenshots?

I use my Apple Watch as a notification device all the time. Phone calls, text message replays. That's not Digital Touch or sending heartbeats, but it is still communication, which was a tentpole type feature from the beginning. I basically use the Apple Watch in accordance to the original tentpoles: time, fitness, communication, and weather. Don't see any big changes.

You want me to do the research and gather screenshots from an operating system that existed nearly a decade ago because you don't understand my point? Yeah, sorry, no.

If you believe you're correct, go nuts. Or go look at the information yourself. It's not like I'm unique in my perspective since it's what happened.

What changed? The entire functionality of the operating system. How apps were loaded. What the buttons did. What data was obtained and processed on device versus on the phone. Native SDKs weren't even available until watchOS 2.

The platform got turned on its head. Go look into it, it's quite the fascinating history. Or don't, I don't care. lol

Burden of proof is one of the basic concepts in critical thought. Go take a logic class and it will be one of the first concepts covered. 

In critical thought/logic the burden of proof is the responsibility of the person making the claim.  In this case that is you. That you have declined to offer any proof and are falling back on “go look at the information yourself” just underscores how weak your argument is. 

GolferTechGuru said:

I see posts to buy Apple Stock?? At $3,500 (note: plus a lot of tax, so like $4K) a headset, people had BETTER buy stock.

The problem with Apple is they just don't understand pricing - never have. They're so heck-bent on immediate profits, that they miss the big picture. They could have launched at $1,500 and immediately captured more market share, with significant stock jumps like Meta. The problem will always be the same with their bigger ticket items. Someone should tell them they can make money later on, soon after they get the headset on as many heads as humanly possible.

And now - here we go!!!  You've got boneheads and other countries selling these things from $5K all the way up to $10K - which is a complete joke and actually an invitation for lawsuits and other legal issues. And it already started with Scammers scamming people... Get This! = I just stumbled on a blog about 3 imitation headsets built in China that do nothing more than cast iPhone screens onto the 2 screens inside the "headset". Your basic wireless Bluetooth/Airplay connections and Whammo! Scammed! Ouch. (The funny part is I hear Apple expected it - I mean Duh!) This is just the beginning.... Man oh Man!!!

And History will prove this: Sorry Folks, this is going to be the first iPhone. When it's actually "ready" and perhaps worth a few grand, it will be the vision Pro 20. We will look back at these massive goggles and it will be funny - future kids will giggle at the size and simplicity. So now, the majority of Americans sit and wait - as they should!! 

We have also discovered Apple is offering payment programs, like an Affirm, but then you have credit checks, and while Apple profits, more and more Americans will add significantly much more to their already overwhelming credit debt.

Sure, who doesn't want floating screens, dinosaurs coming at you in 3D and keyboards for email and texting!? For now though, our phones work every time, all the time and we can currently Cast/Airplay to a large screen to watch Jason Bourne. Bet that Apple will likely add block/limits to controls for casting soon, and force the "need". But that's precisely the kind of marketing and control that keeps limiting them - they drive me nuts!! LMAO.

Want a very good Macbook? You need to be well off. Want the first Vision Pro, you need to be well off. Want the best phone? Pay up.

It's Apple for some, not for others. THAT'S Apple, and it's ridiculous.

I would have dropped this first launch at the $1,500 price point, get these things everywhere and watch my stock skyrocket. Instead, all they've done is drop a massive wall between the rich and poor, desperate and ignorant, and started us all down the road of TicketMaster-Resale battles, scams and madness. Go check out the stock price this morning? ... So in the tune of Nickelodeon? Dip, dip, dip, dip, da-dip, dip, dip.... Dip-I-told you-so!!!! 

williamh said:

auxio said:

22july2013 said:

hmlongco said:

Need to shut scalpers down.

How exactly do you define a "scalper"? If I buy something then suddenly realize I don't need it, should the government stop me from reselling it at any price I want? Do you want everyone who sells everything to get approval first from a government agency? And do you want price controls that prevent the value of anything we own from going up? Does that apply to the value of your house, if someone offered you ten times the price that you just paid for it?

Pretty simply really: purchasing something with the intent to immediately resell it at a higher price without being an authorized reseller.

No government approval necessary, just massive fines for any online service that allows such transactions to occur. Force sellers to either enter an authorized reseller ID or enter the serial number of item they're selling, which can then be used to validate the date of purchase and purchase price, to ensure that it's not being sold over the MSRP within 30 days of purchase.

You're a bit of a fascist.  

nubus said:

Respite said:

They've sold every AVP they've made so far, and they haven't even launched internationally.  Underpricing "for market share" would be leaving money on the table, and utterly stupid.

Sony Playstation 5 - massive queues and branding. Apple at the first many iPhone launches - TV coverage, community building, massive queues. Building demand is not stupid. And Apple has failed again and again on pricing. The last decade of Mac Pro (too little, too late, too expensive), G4 Cube, Lisa (ended in a landfill), Anniversary Mac (78% discount directly by Apple), first iPhone (ended with Apple handing out gift cards), HomePod (original) - priced to let Sonos and Amazon take the market, iPod Hi-Fi (never updated),...  a stream of Apple products that were over-engineered and/or overpriced. At this price it is just another toy for rich kids.

Xed said:

paisleydisco said:

GolferTechGuru said:

The problem with Apple is they just don't understand pricing - never have. 

Apple is a $3 trillion company. >

Exit stage left, sir.

With that answer many people will see that as proof that Apple charges too much.