Kuminga

Fred257 said:

Look, Apple is in the wrong here.  They will be found guilty if this goes to trial. Instead, Apple will slowly open up their ecosystem, just watch… IWatches will soon be available on Android. Third party app stores will be available (in very limited ways) in a couple years before trial.  Consumers will have more options to customize iOS to their liking.  It will be a win for both Apple and consumers. Why? Because I have kept up on a daily basis with Apple News and innovation since 1997 on a daily basis.  The only time we had massive amounts of software innovation is n the iPhone was when you could jailbreak your phone.  After Apple has closed off this with encryption software innovation has almost come to a screeching halt. 

radarthekat said:

h2p said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

Madbum said:

Joe Biden needs to go. I am sorry but I am not usually political but this guy is ridiculous 

This started two years into the Trump administration.

Sure did! Biden erased many of Trump's initiatives. 

- Why not this one?! 

- What's the angle? 

- Does the administration hate Apple that much that they are looking for Any reason to knock an American company?

I appreciate the perspective of nudging Apple to change, but the ridiculous part is using a lawsuit to extract - what? extraction concessions? extract cash? - from Apple.

Why not this one?  Maybe because the executive branch should not attempt to interfere with the judicial branch.  Biden would be rightly criticized if he did attempt to interfere.  Let the lawsuit play out on its merits, or lack thereof.

blastdoor said:

Kuminga said:

More commentary on CNBC from George Mason Law Professor

” This DOJ case makes no sense”

https://youtu.be/JeOr_jEq4_g?si=EigJ6S1dqNHQ84SU

I think there are some illiberal zealots working in anti-trust in the Biden administration. This lawsuit might be the result of a bone thrown to the Warren-Sanders wing of the party (that bone being the selection of some zealots for anti-trust positions). 

I wonder if Garland and Biden are taking the attitude "let the babies have their bottle", knowing full well that this effort is likely to fail. Some people need to learn lessons the hard way. But as someone who is not an anti-trust zealot and thinks it's vital for Biden to be re-elected so as to avoid a Trump dictatorship, I wish they could have waited to launch their suicide mission until after the election. 

If a GHW Bush type person could be the R nominee this year, I'd be very tempted to vote for him as a protest against this kind of stupidity. The country needs a sane center-right political party to maintain policy balance. 

cpsro said:

DoJ is just upset Apple keeps closing all the backdoors and no more good ones remain.

teejay2012 said:

I did not understand the Spotify - Apple Music fine. The Commission conveniently overlooked that it is Spotify that has a monopoly in the EU and is not financially harmed by Apple, even becoming profitable after many years despite Daniel Ek's extravagant CEO lifestyle. Anti steering should have been a simple thing for Apple, with a notice that the app  could be purchased on the web. A url could have even have been provided, but I could not see how Apple should provide an actual link on the App Store page. That would be like Walmart arranging for an Uber to take you to Target to buy the product at a lower price. Apple was likely surprised how aggressive Vestager was, and how committed she was to promote EU industry by fining US industry. She is gone. Apple will appeal to the courts, which have in past over ruled the Commission, but the chances are small of reversing this. After all, this is 'only 500 million' and this is Apple...

danox said:

badmonk said:

The fact that this antitrust lawsuit was four years in the making is an embarrassment.  It is more akin to something a comment troll concocted in 5 minutes.  The smartwatch argument is the stupidest, android watches are locked to android like the AW is locked to the iPhone and android users are generally happy with their watches.  And if one wants to buy a Garmin, it will work across devices.  iMessage is probably the strongest point but by the time it goes to trial it will be a non-issue.

People are concerned about privacy and safety on-line,  And for the price of a Taylor Swift ticket consumers have their choice of an iPhone or a capable android device.  Again DOJ what are you doing about TicketMaster?

I don’t see the harm from the consumer perspective.  And the DOJ should not be in the business of picking winners and losers as businesses battle-it-out as long as choice is maintained and there is no collusion. 

And a 15-30% cut for profit apps is the industry standard.   And remember Apple charges only a $100  developer fee for the vast majority of non-profit apps.

I hope Apple fights this tooth and nail.  As another commenter that I read started, any loss of market share to Apple (an. American company) will just open up that portion of the market to asian companies.  I suspect Garland would be happy to have us use Huawei Hero phones.

This is a complete waste of tax payer money.  And of course Trump will exploit this (if he is smart).

Trump can't even post a bond maybe he can get Truth Social to help losing.....