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9secondkox2 said:

And now it’s illegal to post a Google ai summery in support of dioctionary definitions? Serious? What is going on here?

Surely everyone with an ounce of commonsense knows that Google AI summaries are incorrect or include half-truths much of the time, so they’re hardly something to be relied upon in a sane adult discussion.  

Many of us expected the AVP or AV to be tethered to an iPhone, iPad or Mac.

It makes sense to use the computer we already have for most procesing, remove the Mx chip from the headset and put the rechargeable battery in the headset - cable needed for data connection / video bandwidth (think how SideCar with Mac/iPad works far better with a USB-C cable).

I guess Apple wanted to get something out there earlier than the end of 2025 to show what they can do.

Wacom killer.

The M3 range had a better jump up from the M2 range than the M4 had from the M3 for my type of workload, including 3d hardware raytracing - so it feels frustrating that the new Ultra is M3 based and thereby not as good as we hoped it would be, but I think the Ultra will be better than people expect, or rather the M4 Ultra would not have been that much better than the M3 Ultra.

For my 3D work the GPU isn’t really important as I primarily use ZBrush nowadays and that is entirely CPU based. Even the Redshift renderer ZBrush comes with is CPU based (but I could choose to subscribe to the GPU version if I felt the need). More RAM and CPU is more important to me than more GPU for my 3D work, as I spend 99% of my time not rendering. 

We’ll have to wait and see what the review tests show to get a better idea of real-world performance but anyone doing significant video work, especially those making use of the specific hardware encoders/decoders could see a big benefit from the Ultra - but they might not notice it much except for shorter rendering times if they are not doing massive projects in 8k.

My other half is a graphic designer and she recently moved from a 2019 intel iMac to a 2024 M4 Pro Mac Mini with Studio Display (both setups cost about the same) and she doesn’t feel that it is that much better except the heat/fans and of course being able to run the latest versions of certain programs. 

The horse train analogy reminds me of something I read about ZBrush cores from some time ago, whereby to determine when more cores is better is to multiple the core frequency with the number of cores and the bigger number wins…

M3 Ultra = (4.05 x 20) + (2.75 x 8) = 103
M4 Max = (4.5 x 10) + (2.95 x 4) = 56.8

an M4 Ultra would have been: (4.5 x 20) + (2.95 x 8) = 113.6 

… I just searched for the source and found this: “This means that a 6 core CPU at 2.5 GHz would have a score of 15 while a 4 core CPU at 3 GHz would only have a score of 12. The former edges out the latter even though each core is slower.” from https://www.reddit.com/r/ZBrush

Many, many people game on low-end PCs.

I know a teen that does some gaming on an M1 MacMini, and all his mates have PCs - but the M1 actually runs the games he can play on it better than his mates PCs do (faster framerates and better render distance for example).

Obviously the games playable on M1 are limited, so he uses an old Intel Mac with bootcamp for other games and that iMac runs these other games far better than his mates PCs too.

The M1 Mac Mini cost as much when new as the mates low-end PCs but the iMac cost significantly more when it was bought. The equivalent iMac still costs more than the low-end PCs if bought second-hand.

My point is that Apple Silicon does not have to beat the top-end PCs with 4090 GPUs, as most gamers do not have high-end PCs.

I’m pretty sure the M3 would be a great gaming platform if developers would ship games that can run on it - the developers need incentivising/subsidising from Apple imho. 

Apple needs to make every app that has digital out of app purchases a paid download. Minimum price $5

I remember someone I know buying a graphics card to put in their PC for $3,500 around the year 2000… 

I had the AVP demo recently and it was, even for me, surprisingly good.  It’s head and shoulders above what I have seen in the alternatives from Meta & Sony - it makes the PSVR2 seem like a low-end toy which I guess it is in comparison.

I would say at the same price as a very good (and large) TV it is priced quite reasonably if you get enough use out of it. 

TimC should tell Trump that Apple will, because of the impact of the tariffs, no longer have the revenue to invest in US manufacturing at all. 

The EU needs to make better (less vague) laws - they will deserve everything that gets thrown at them by the US administration.  

If the laws were written competently then there would be none of this to and fro or the idea that corporate entities should adhere to a a vaguely ill or non defined “spirit of the law”.