one9deuce

rogifan_new said:

cali said:

mac_dog said:

LukeCage said:

That’s the thing, none of us knows exactly how Apple is viewing this. I think a partnership would be best also, but I’m not in a decision making position at Apple, my view at best is myopic. I see what you’re saying about the data analytics arm but having just data is not always the best. I used to be an analyst at huge hospital, how a hospital board of directors sees things is vastly different from how doctors view things. Even how doctors view things is vastly different from the people who really keep things going in a hospital, the nurses see things. Having those points of view, I think would help Apple  

why partner? that would bring up serious privacy issues. better if apple just went at it alone. regardless, if apple's snooping around and considering getting into the healthcare industry—in any capacity—all those old white boys will be shitting their pants. they might actually have to start innovating. because u can bet if apple can turn this turd of an industry around, they will. will we see the healthcare industry start going after apple in some manner? yeah, I think so.

Yeah after their google partnership and having their iPhone stolen, Apple is pretty much done with partnerships. Too risky and too much greed and betrayal. 

Um, Didi, IBM, Accenture, Cisco, Nike, Standford, Salesforce, Nuance, Ohio State University, Deloitte, etc. Apple partners all the time. I work for a very large health insurance company one that will soon have a market cap of $200B. We have a technology arm that is investing heavily in ML & AI. The idea that there is no innovation in healthcare and Apple will waltz in and show everyone how it’s done is laughable. 

You sound exactly like the Palm CEO saying this about Apple and the iPhone in 2007: “We’ve learned and struggled for a few years here figuring out how to make a decent phone,” he said. “PC guys are not going to just figure this out. They’re not going to just walk in”.

And I’m not sure I understand your stance that’s basically “Well, we ARE working on things that will innovate so there’s no need for anyone else to bother”. I mean, really? Health Care is a bloated and unorganized mess right now, it’s absolutley ripe for disruption. Maybe you’re company is going to make things more streamlined in the future, but they better hurry on that “innovation” because Apple is *definitely* moving towards changing things in that area. 

tmay said:

one9deuce said:

patchythepirate said:

one9deuce said:

lkrupp said:

fallenjt said:

And AAPL after hour trading drops over 1%. What kind of WS bullshit is that?

As always, Wall Street doesn’t care about what you did today, it’s about what it thinks you will do in the future. And the Covid-19 delta variant has thrown a monkey wrench into the financial crystal ball, all because 50% of the population are dumb, ignorant morons. There’s also a study out that reveals 1-in-5 believe the vaccines contain microchips. That means 20% of the population are certified idiots.

Well, that 50% clearly just needs to be educated. Such as providing links to actual studies on the long term effects of an mRNA vaccine on people. I think if you were to post some of those it would be very illuminating. 

And you’re spot on, just like previous quarters when Apple crushed earnings, it’s only what Wall St. thinks will happen going forward that matters. 

Well, if you go to the VAERS website* right now and compare vaccine deaths, most vaccine deaths range from a handful, to a dozen, to a couple hundred at most. Covid comes in over 6,000. Of course, not all of these are verified, but evidence suggests that most of the VAERS inputs are from medical providers. Keep in mind, vaccine programs have been halted before for as little as 25 deaths. We have >6,000 reported deaths now. And yet people see fit to continue this, even giving it to children, who have virtually no risk from covid. Incredibly cowardly, especially when you consider that over %90 of elderly (in the US at least) have already been vaccinated.

*https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D8;jsessionid=3908F8EE3AEE3EC7F62CD6D4A87D

Yes, that’s great info. Thank you. My original intent was that there IS no long term studies on the effects of the vaccine on humans, but the short term effects are slowly starting to be more widely known thankfully. 

How will all of this affect Apple? Who knows? Should be an interesting quarter.  

I'll play.

627,000 people have officially died from COVID19 to date in the U.S., and you are "concerned" about a very small number who have had fatal reactions to the vaccines, and another some 6000 who have been vaccinated but died from COVID19 anyway.

Seems like a vaccination give you 100x better chance of life, and then of course, there are all of those nasty short and longterm effects of COVID19 that a significant portion of those with symptomatic COVID19 will experience over their lifetime.

I say, knock yourself out!

I’m absolutely concerned about what might happen if I get Covid 19 both in the short term and the long term. What can happen from contracting it is very known and not something I would ever take lightly. But I’m also quite concerned about what the long term effects of an mRNA vaccine are, and since that is not known by anybody I also don’t take that lightly either. Hopefully there are no long term side effects from an mRNA vaccine since hundreds of millions of people have gotten it. 

I’m also concerned I’m contributing to derailing this thread, so this post will be my last post on the vaccine.

One of my favorite subjects is Apple’s stock, so I look forward to more posts about their quarterly earnings report. Quarter 2 of 2020 to quarter 2 of 2021 was about a 50% increase, which is mind-boggling for a company with a market cap in the trillions. And I think they’re going to keep growing at an astounding rate. 

patchythepirate said:

one9deuce said:

lkrupp said:

fallenjt said:

And AAPL after hour trading drops over 1%. What kind of WS bullshit is that?

As always, Wall Street doesn’t care about what you did today, it’s about what it thinks you will do in the future. And the Covid-19 delta variant has thrown a monkey wrench into the financial crystal ball, all because 50% of the population are dumb, ignorant morons. There’s also a study out that reveals 1-in-5 believe the vaccines contain microchips. That means 20% of the population are certified idiots.

Well, that 50% clearly just needs to be educated. Such as providing links to actual studies on the long term effects of an mRNA vaccine on people. I think if you were to post some of those it would be very illuminating. 

And you’re spot on, just like previous quarters when Apple crushed earnings, it’s only what Wall St. thinks will happen going forward that matters. 

Well, if you go to the VAERS website* right now and compare vaccine deaths, most vaccine deaths range from a handful, to a dozen, to a couple hundred at most. Covid comes in over 6,000. Of course, not all of these are verified, but evidence suggests that most of the VAERS inputs are from medical providers. Keep in mind, vaccine programs have been halted before for as little as 25 deaths. We have >6,000 reported deaths now. And yet people see fit to continue this, even giving it to children, who have virtually no risk from covid. Incredibly cowardly, especially when you consider that over %90 of elderly (in the US at least) have already been vaccinated.

*https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D8;jsessionid=3908F8EE3AEE3EC7F62CD6D4A87D

Yes, that’s great info. Thank you. My original intent was that there IS no long term studies on the effects of the vaccine on humans, but the short term effects are slowly starting to be more widely known thankfully. 

How will all of this affect Apple? Who knows? Should be an interesting quarter.