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Personally I wouldn't touch anything Google does with a ten-foot pole, and I really (really, really) hate Office. So this is just what the doctor ordered.

I hope they fix Music soon. Finding things in a large library is so much harder in Music than it was in iTunes. I thought Music was supposed to make it easier to manage your music library than iTunes, but they have managed to make it almost unusable.

With Google it is a privacy thing. I know that they have not been proven to do anything malicious wth the data, but on the other hand when I search for something, I want to find all the stuff related to what I search for, not just the things that the search engine thinks I want to find. I use Ghostery to list all the trackers on the web-sites I visit.
As to Office, I just don't like it. It is filled with functionality I never use, and looks ugly. Office can do almost anything, which just masks the things I need and makes it difficult to use. Excel is extremely confusing compared to Numbers (of course it can do more, but this functionality I never use), and Powerpoint its laid out so that it is difficult to make really elegant and efficient presentations. The tools just makes it difficult to do what you want, even though everything is possible. I just like elegant tools, and Office really is not elegant. The tool just gets in the way.
I know I went a bit overboard with my hate-comment. I don't hate any software out there - hate is such a strong word. Office just does not fit my needs, and the position it has in the marketplace makes it almost impossible for other solutions to compete. 
I like that there are different solutions out there, so you can have real competition. If only Office survives, we are worse off than if there are alternative solutions, no matter how good Office is.

It is interesting, and a little scary, to follow this discussion. 

How is it possible to compare this to selling computers in any country? Apple has decided not to sponsor a candidate that has openly said that he will implement policies that will most probably  influence Apple (and any American company) negatively. Where has Apple ever said that they will not sell computers to republicans? That is what you are implying. Or are you implying that they are giving computers to heads of state in Saudi-Arabia, India, China and other countries that you do not like? 

If I could vote, I would vote for Clinton since there are only two real candidates. I'm sure there are lots of issues with her, but at least she is predictable and responsible. Trump is a loose cannon. Neither responsible nor predictable. The problem is not, for me, what he would do to USA, but what he can do to the rest of the world. USA today is a trigger-happy war-machine that influences not just itself, but also the rest of the world, and recently not in a good way.

sumergo said:

macxpress said:

lmac said:

I have an 8 core 2.8 Ghz Xeon processor Mac Pro with 32 GB RAM, but Apple says I can't run 10.12, so I can't run any of the current versions of iWork apps.

Apple has to draw a line in the sand somewhere...sorry! I'll be in the same boat soon I bet. I have a last gen tower Mid-2012 Mac Pro. 

Sorry guys, but I must have missed something - you can't run Sierra on that hardware?

I'm running 10.12.4 (and Pages/Numbers/Keynote) on a mid-2010 17 inch MacBook Pro with a two-core 2.66 i7 & 8 GB - I just loaded it up and it worked.

;-(

Of course he can run Sierra on that hardware. He says "I'll be in the same boat soon I bet". Which means, to my maybe limited understanding of English, that in a couple of years his hardware will not be able to run the latest system. He'll be fine until 10.14 and maybe 10.15, but at some point his hardware will not be supported. My 2008 MacPro does not run Sierra. His 2012 Mac Pro will probably not be able to run 10.15 (or 10.16 or...)

I realize that, but according to Activity monitor there was no network activity from Music, and all the album covers had been imported manually so they were part of the iTunes library already. iTunes has never been able to properly find album covers for classical music CDs, so the covers had already been downloaded manually from the net and inserted in the iTunes library.
If this means Music is actually able to find album covers for these CDs I am indeed impressed as iTunes has never been able to do that. 
My main problem with Music is the navigation problems though. Bring back column view from iTunes - a much better way to browse large collections.

canukstorm said:

There's this little thing called a democracy where the people have the power to decide who leads the country and who doesn't. And they have spoken. 

And they voted for Hillary. She got more votes than Trump, but the archaic voting system manages to give the win to the candidate that got the least votes. 

SpamSandwich said:

OMG. Please...no more adapters. I'm drowning in a pile of them now.

How is technology going to move forwards if you never can change anything because of old standards? The adaptors are there so you can use your old externals after alternatives are introduced. I expect that most users will use bluetooth headphones soon, so why not get rid of the old analogue plug, and include an adapter for those that insists on using their old headphones? A win-win situation in my book.