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OK, so my English baffled you, so I'll just correct that. Quote: Originally Posted by cdale Indeed there as never been any suggestion that it was not possible to sandbox some subset apps, no developers claim that. The whole question is around h…
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[QUOTE=Hiro;2053235Your original implication, and repeated confirmation, was that it was not possible to do sandboxing before XCode 4.3, which is patently incorrect.[/QUOTE] The first mention of Xcode 4.3 in this thread was in Apple's statement, …
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Quote: Originally Posted by cdale Don't join the misinformation here, read Apple's announcement. Xcode 4.3 has just been released and contains "new APIs" - that is APIs for the sandbox. Could developers have adopted those new APIs in two weeks…
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Quote: Originally Posted by SolipsismX That's exactly how I see it but I certainly couldn't have worded it as well as you did. Don't join the misinformation here, read Apple's announcement. Xcode 4.3 has just been released and contains "new AP…
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From Apple: Sandboxing Deadline Extended to June 1 Feb 21, 2012 We have extended the deadline for sandboxing your apps on the Mac App Store from March 1st to June 1st to provide you with enough time to take advantage of new sandboxing entitlemen…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kayle Also, the permissions are almost all static rather than dynamic, also leading to more permissions than required at any point in time. In regard to this it is worth noting that Apple is encouraging developers t…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hiro Make more sense now? I'll make this my last post on this. No your argument doesn't make sense. Developers, from those producing some of the top selling applications in the MAS down to small one-person compan…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hiro Well then a huge number of them can consider themselves insulted, rightfully so. For all the professionalism the world of software construction claims, it is one of the poorest run "engineering" areas out there. …
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Quote: Originally Posted by Gatorguy A question for you guys, since it's apparent a few of you are pretty darn knowledgeable about sandboxing. Does this patent seem to apply to it? http://patft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...&RS=PN/7398532 …
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I just knew I shouldn't have posted, devil's advocacy is hard work here, but really... Quote: Originally Posted by Hiro No, you are reading it inside out. Sorry no. Sure there have always been apps that couldn't go into the MAS, and sandbox…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hiro Wow. This thread is full of FUD. Maybe a read of the dev guidelines and sandbox operations, not blind contrivances might be in order? You have to try really hard to find non-driver level code problems with sa…
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I've obviously not been clear, so a quick comment: Quote: Originally Posted by Hiro Editing HTML or C files is not a sandbox precluded action. They are just text, nothing more nothing less. If a user asks to open them for editing, the sandbox…
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I know I said I'd add no more to this thread, but you tempt me too well But I'll restrict myself to just a few of your comments. Quote: Originally Posted by ascii I know not every developer has followed the OS conventions, but if they had …
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While I might be taking the role of devil's advocate, I must say you "protest too much". Quote: Originally Posted by ascii Once again it's a case of using the standard folders. There is a permission "Allow downloads folder access" so as long a…
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Quote: Originally Posted by hmurchison Breaches can come from cracks external to the store and so Sandboxing is there as built in quarantine system should an attack come from outside the store. Let's see: applications are digitally signed, su…
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Quote: Originally Posted by ascii Well where did they get that HTML from in the first place? If they saved it from Safari it will be a .webarchive, in which case all the sub-resources will be included in the bundle and will be accessible. If they…
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Quote: Originally Posted by hmurchison Sandboxing is really only going to affect a small subset of my apps...a few utilities like Keyboard Maestro, Moom and perhaps some transfer programs that I can purchase outside of the store. For the rest…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Gatorguy You don't have any way to lock a thread do you? A reverse swipe surely?
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The article is listed as a "Feature" and in the very first line says "a policy that is drawing complaints from certain developers". Great, here comes a frank analysis of those concerns, whether they're valid, or FUD; and a conclusion about whether t…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Hiro Well to actually analyze the numbers you cannot do naive simple division analysis. ... So be VERY careful what numbers you decide to divide by. Well you are right and wrong. A simple analysis doesn't give you…