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Quote: Originally Posted by SolipsismX No they are not. They are simply not selling a book that has hyperlinks to Amazon's book store the same way that Amazon threatened to sell books that are also sold on Apple's bookstore. If Godin were to r…
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Quote: Originally Posted by SolipsismX It's about a retailer choosing not to sell a product that conflicts with their business model. It's fine that you think that a retailer shouldn't have a choice in what is sold or that you're ignoring Ama…
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Quote: Originally Posted by diddy Yes they can and they should. Appe isn't saying to their customer "you cannot view this text and the links". They are saying, "we will not sell this". That is a huge difference. If I open a book store, I can …
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It's gratifying to see this community respond to what I'm saying, seriously. It doesn't happen often in a forum. You guys are spot-on in your responses. Very cool. I do see ignorance, however, in the definition of the term censorship. It is not s…
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Quote: Originally Posted by ebernet pilgrim850, why is there no outcry that the Android Market is not available on the Amazon Kindle Fire? Why is there no Barnes and Nobles Reader on the Kindle Fire, nor a Kindle book reader on the B&N Nook? …
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Quote: Originally Posted by SolipsismX FUCK you're irritating! There is no stopping Apple's customers from reading this book. There is no one preventing Apple's customers from buying the book at any other fucking bookstore. You can even read it o…
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Quote: Originally Posted by jragosta BTW, why aren't you out picketing Walmart for their decision not to carry Playboy? Because this isn't an issue with vulgar speech. It's an issue with commercial censorship. (And to use the word, it is censo…
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Quote: Originally Posted by anantksundaram Truly, I don't mean to offend: But this "$95B billion dollars in the bank" argument is fast descending into tiresome BS. It is being trotted out a strawman or solution or panacea for just about anything …
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Quote: Originally Posted by ebernet As long as you equate an ad with "creative expression", we will never agree. I understand your point that they could have just rejected the book, but as others here said, they provided a reason - it had embedde…
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Quote: Originally Posted by SolipsismX Looks like you'll running out of bookstores: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/18/te...amazon.html?hp I know. It's not just an Apple thing. Soon we'll have publishers and booksellers doing double-duty on the…
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Quote: Originally Posted by SolipsismX And that's the risk a company takes a free market. You can't tell a company what products to sell and still expect people to see as impartial and accepting a free market system. You do agree the reason…
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@Tallest Skil Well, yeah. I am giving up, kinda. You can't connect with everyone. As long as you continue to discuss books as products (WalMart and Target references), as well as works of art, and blend the definition of censorship--trying to…
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Quote: Originally Posted by anantksundaram Your arguments are passionate. And well-crafted. But let me ask you, shouldn't your arguments also apply to pornography? Hate speech? Incitement to violence? Yelling "fire" in a crowded theater? Where…
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@Tallest Skil When Apple points out the so-called offensive parts as the reason the book was not accepted, and then has a reputation of having the material resubmitted--with changes made--you call that business. I call that asking the writer to c…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Tallest Skil Which is exactly the same as a bookstore rejecting the book outright or approving it. The end game is identical. Apple is doing something BETTER for both parties than outright rejection in that it would ac…
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Quote: Originally Posted by ebernet Apple did not censor the content - he could have resubmitted the book without the links, That is censorship.
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Quote: Originally Posted by SolipsismX The 1st Amendment of the Constitution doesn't force retailers to sell anything you want!!! I never said it did. What I have said is, a real bookstore does not tell an author how to write his book. A bo…
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Quote: Originally Posted by SolipsismX You fail to understand what censorship or freedom os speech means. A retailer choosing not to sell an item is not the same thing as the item not allow to exist within a nation. You are confused, in that y…
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Quote: Originally Posted by SolipsismX It's not the apropos example but the essence is exactly the same: retailers can choose to sell the products they want. Read the TOS of this website. Offensive material--as defined by the Supreme Court, et…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Apple ][ I know what you mean. Apple recently pissed me off big time. I'd been working hard on this iOS game called Ninja Pussies from Hell HD for over 5 months, and can you believe that they had the nerve to reject my…