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Quote: Originally Posted by Gatorguy Yet the Appeals Court did not find that code was protected. That's to be determined in a new trial over the issue of fair use. You are mistaken. The appeals court did reverse Alsup's ruling and find that…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Peterbob If its fair use its not stealing. If it's not fair use, then Android is fucked.
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Quote: Originally Posted by hill60 At least 47 lines of code. Actually it was more than 7000 lines of API declaring code that was copied verbatim.
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Quote: Originally Posted by FreeRange Finally some sanity might come to this case! Not necessarily. This "stay while we consider a stay," is obligatory on the 2nd Circuit's part. Apple's claim of potential irreparable harm would have to be tota…
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Apple vs. California?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Gatorguy Ruddy missed out on linking the brief itself. It's 33-pages and IMO it is a worthwhile read if you're really interested in the case. http://fortunebrainstormtech.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/economist-amicus…
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Economists file Amici Curiae brief for Apple: Quote: The District Court also erred in equating price increases for some e-books with harm to competition. Apple's entry into the e-book retail market dramatically increased competition by diminishing…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Frood The above statements attempt to add some AI pro-Apple spin. The first sentence is just blatantly and flat out wrong. The court did not rule that launching the iPad, nor iBooks, were in violation of the Sher…
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Quote: Originally Posted by ItsTheInternet 1. The pre-trial opinion was solicited, not spontaneous. If a Judge is not allowed to have an opinion before a case then you will find no judge suitable. Don't you get tired of pre-chewed baloney? …
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Quote: You'd find room for agreement with those that believe Google used those API's quite legally then. Some room. I think the deck is still pretty stacked against Google. If it goes to a jury it simply looks easier to me for Oracle to make the ca…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Gatorguy It appears you don't believe they have a legally supportable fair use argument. Correct? Nope, never said anything like that. I could argue either side. On balance I think Google will lose, especially if th…
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Quote: Originally Posted by ItsTheInternet Can you name a method of operation without an original expression? Perhaps you could list something which is both and already decidedly under copyright so we can look at an independent example? A shor…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Gatorguy You've avoided a specific answer. You're stating that Google has illegally copied the API's, which would be a fact the Appeals Court could establish as a matter of law. Am I correct? You're declaring "F…
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Quote: Originally Posted by d4NjvRzf The fundamental difference between WINE and Hackintoshes is that while Hackintoshes are basically Sunday DIY projects and nobody is making money off them, WINE is supported by commercial Linux vendors like R…
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Quote: Originally Posted by ItsTheInternet It may require only a spark, but you simply cannot deny that APIs are methods or systems of operation. Yes, but that's not the issue, because they are not _only_ methods of operation, they also conta…
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Quote: Originally Posted by Gatorguy So Google's use of the API's is clearly and obviously illegal then? At the end of the day that seems to be the position you're taking. I doubt it will be clear and obvious to folks like yourself even afte…
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Quote: Originally Posted by d4NjvRzf I did not make any predictions on how the court is "going" to rule on copyright law. My examples merely support the point that copying declaring code has long been standard practice in the software industry,…
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Quote: Originally Posted by d4NjvRzf Can you provide some examples where people tried to create their own implementations of Apple or Google APIs and got shut down in court over copyright (and not over corporate trademarks)? What APIs does IBM h…
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Quote: Originally Posted by d4NjvRzf As supported by the various examples I've cited (WINE, MinGW, *nixes), "some software developers" should really be "all software developers until this case." Really? Apple allows competitors to hijack its…
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Quote: Originally Posted by ItsTheInternet Because I write it every day and I know that the method declarations pale into insignificance compared to the complexity and creativity of implementing the actual method Obviously you exaggerate since…