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Quote: Originally Posted by jragosta There's a difference between legally purchased and legally used. Read Judge Alsup's decision. Using Mac OS X DVDs on non-Apple hardware involves both an EULA violation AND a DMCA violation. It's just plain not…
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If you look further you realize that all machines affected by this update are those based on the NVidia chipset on their logic boards.
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Quote: Originally Posted by jragosta Apple is giving tools for a different purpose. They are most certainly not giving the tools for use to install OS X on generic hardware. So you are violating the copyright to those tools by operating outside o…
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Quote: Originally Posted by DavidW And then you got this little tibbit from the DMCA. "It criminalizes production and dissemination of technology, devices, or services intended to circumvent measures (commonly known as Digital Rights Managemen…
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Quote: Originally Posted by jragosta The German law states: "The right holder shall have the exclusive right to do or to authorize: 1. the permanent or temporary reproduction of a computer program by any means and in any form, in part or in…
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Quote: Originally Posted by jragosta I didn't say it was illegal. I challenged you to boot from an OS X CD and install a working copy of OS X onto a Dell computer without any hacking. You failed to meet that challenge. Well, i loaded OSX o…
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Quote: Originally Posted by DavidW Are you sure about this? http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/4278.cfm What has changed since Germany adapted the EUCD in 2003? Where do one circumvent copy protection by using a bootloader? Quote…
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First and foremost, thanks for the clarification. Quote: Originally Posted by DavidW Copyright protection on software is a little different than other IP in that there must be some provision for making copies of it. That's because most softwa…
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Quote: Originally Posted by jragosta Then you didn't boot from the OS X disk, did you? You used something which bypassed the startup software on the disk, in clear violation of DMCA. You lose. How can one violate the DMCA if one doesn't …
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Quote: Originally Posted by solipsism EFI-X only works with specific MoBos. It has the appropriate drivers on the chip and makes the default BIOS run as EFI. If Mac OS X was standard, then there would be no need for additional HW to make the syst…
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Quote: Originally Posted by jragosta You are sadly mistaken. Take a Mac OS X install disk. Insert it into a Dell computer. Try to install from the install disk. It just doesn't work. Yes, it will run on "any PC matching the hardware of cur…
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Quote: Originally Posted by jragosta 3. Mac OS X does NOT run on generic hardware. You need to hack it to make it work. That brings DMCA into the equation. Mac OSX does run on generic hardware and you don't need to hack any part of it to make …
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It seems that it's common sense with lawyers in germany that EULAs are not enforcable after Microsoft lost their OEM case in the year 2000. BGH, Urteil v. 06.07.2000, Az. I ZR 244/97, CuR 2000, 651 (OEM-Urteil) (day of judgment 6th of july, 2000 an…
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... nevermind, wrong thread...
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Quote: Originally Posted by ros3ntan we don't have data medium. I think it will be great but those kind of rights doesn't exist. So do you guys have any problem with people sharing software though? just curious. Cause i would think if i can share…
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Quote: Originally Posted by ros3ntan yes, but you are modifying the usage of the product which is specified in EULA In europe this doesn't mean sh*t. I don't know how's that handled in the USA though, but i cannot say that i even care.
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Quote: Originally Posted by JoeDRC How is it illegal? When you buy Mac OS X your buying a license for that product. You have to agree to that license in order to use it. I don't know what's the case in the USA, but in Europe you don't just buy…
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Quote: Originally Posted by irnchriz Well in that case they are screwed as you cant install it without modifying it. Of course you can. You just need an open source bootloader which then boots the original Mac OSX install DVD without touching …