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latifbp said: gwydion said: Then you'll be glad to know that this is not what this case is about jmgregory1 said: Then you'll be glad to know that this is not what this case is about This case is about allegedly ilegal state aids t…
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boltsfan17 said: I don't see how Ireland is doing anything wrong. What Apple is doing is the so called structure called Double Irish. Double Irish can't be considered illegal state aid because it's available to all companies. No, the case i…
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digitalclips said: gwydion said: Then you'll be glad to know that this is not what this case is about jmgregory1 said: Then you'll be glad to know that this is not what this case is about This case is about allegedly ilegal state …
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jmgregory1 said: Just like the BS spouted by US politicians, the European's want to talk about changing the rules of the game after the fact, Then you'll be glad to know that this is not what this case is about jmgregory1 said: If y…
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cpsro said: A common logical fallacy: if you're average (or below), then you're necessarily owed something by the wealthier. And his has to do with this case exactly how
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ewtheckman said: gwydion said: The EU case is not about loopholes so that quote is not only a key quote but it is a wrong thing to apply to this case That is the allegation, not a proven fact. And like I just said to cnocbui, Tim …
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mike1 said: The key quote here is... "By funneling money through Irish subsidiaries and exploiting loopholes,..." If the issue is poorly written laws, then they need to go back and close the loopholes. You can't say oops, we really meant t…
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ewtheckman said: gwydion said: Because it has nothing to do with tax laws but with allegedly ilegal state aids It's also claimed that Apple has been taxed at the same rate as everyone else. No, it isn't claimed that. Some comp…
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softeky said: Two can play that game. EU retroactively finds Apple to have been offered illegal state aid in the form of lowered taxation There is nothing found retroactively
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mjtomlin said: Why doesn't the EU just come out and ask Apple to bail out all their bankrupt countries instead of wasting time with all this, "We screwed up our tax laws, now YOU must pay for it!" ? Because it has nothing to do with tax l…
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tenly said: i obviously don't know all the nuances of EU law, but I've understood enough to see clearly that Apple and the other corporations with similar deals - are the victims here. You still don't understand the case, the victims here…
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DanW13 said: US Tax Laws allow foreign Companies who earn monies outside the US and being those earnings into US to not pay any taxes on said earnings, hence the reason Pfizer bought Allergen PLC (Domiciled in Ireland) where Allergen can bri…
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tenly said:It's obviously impossible to have an objective discussion on this taxation issue since so many people are lettering their hate for the US, their hate for corporations or their hate for Apple cloud their judgements. It's obviously impossib…
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tallest skil said: gwydion said: Ah, you're joking About income redistribution being theft? It’s the definition of theft. We have another one joking
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SpamSandwich said: or are "income redistribution", which is just plain theft. Ah, you're jokming
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SpamSandwich said: singularity said: Ireland are accused of offering a deal to Apple that is against EU law. Ireland is not an "authorised representative" of the EU Thus any agreement IF found to be against EU laws will be null. IF …
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tenly said: This is exactly what is being demanded of Apple. It's slimey, it's corrupt, it's unethical and it's fraudulent. Its criminal. No, it is no what is demanded of Apple (and other companies) and no, it is not corrupr, u…
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tenly said: SpamSandwich said: The EU is forcing Ireland to comply. So, hang on a sec...there are so many contradictions in this thread that I'm having trouble understanding what actually happened.... It is my understanding that …
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gadgetcanadav2 said: Apple: We followed the law for our HQ in Ireland. EU: We realize you have followed the law between 2004 and 2012 but we want to retroactively change the law so that you can pay us more taxes. Ireland did not have the aut…
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jungmark said: It was legal and allowed. The EU is crying foul because they need money for bailouts. EU has been ruling ilegal aids from states and regions in Europe since long time ago. It has nothing to do with bailouts and if found ile…