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auxio said:

cloudguy said:

Oracle bought Sun - who agreed to let Google use the APIs and stated so in the trial - because they thought that they could make hundreds of billions of Java licenses. They didn't know - because I guess all their programmers were still using PL/1 and COBOL - that virtually none of the people who used Java paid for it

Wrong.  Most of the major mobile hardware companies were licensing Java at the time (Blackberry, Nokia, etc).  You're only looking at the desktop side of things.

anantksundaram said:

Actually, Apple should simply: (1) Create an ApplePay app for use in Android devices; (2) Insist, however, that it is premised on being able to implement its needed security protocols, which includes the requirement of lack of data-sharing and of hardware features that Android must build into its devices from the get-go; (3) If Android makers fail to provide those security protocols, Apple should bring an EU antitrust complaint against Google (yeah, and not its proxies) and Android.

You know that Android users -- especially post-COVID where no one wants to touch a frikkin' POS device -- would FLOCK to ApplePay, and Apple would collect a couple of pennies on every transaction, i.e., many billions of dollars.

Let's see how long these stupid complaints last.

Joe Piervincenti said:

This is the kind of thing that won’t go anywhere.. notice how they don’t have the same issue with Google Pay on a Pixel, etc... can’t use Apple Pay on those but that’s fine... 

silverwarloc said:

CloudTalkin said:

MacPro said:

If iPhones are vulnerable imagine Android phones which in this extract are not mentioned at all ... it sounds like an excellent marketing strategy for Google to me.  Oh wait ... of course this is the very information all Android users hand over to Google to use already, what am I thinking?

Observations:

• You don't know what Project Zero is.  You don't know what they do
• You skimmed the article looking for excuses why these exploits existed and lasted so long.
• Finding none, you decided it would be perfectly fine to inject baseless speculation and disparage the research team

I've always been curious why people do what you did?  I think either you completely misunderstood what you read or you intentionally made up some stuff.  If it's the former, I'd suggest rereading and clicking on the links to gain understanding.  If it's the latter, might I suggest a look in a mirror and ask yourself: what am I thinking?

Project Zero has been criticized in the past before for not disclosing Googles security failures. The comment is valid.

bb-15 said:

Wikipedia has an informative summary of the case between Ireland, the EU & Apple titled;

”EU illegal State aid case against Apple in Ireland”

- Essentially the EU Commission is using a technicality in the “Double Irish” system. 
Apple did not use the standard Double Irish structure of having two companies. Instead Apple had two divisions within the same company.
- There is no clear evidence that Apple’s version of the Double Irish was better (in terms of reduced taxes) than many other companies in Ireland using the standard Double Irish such as by Microsoft or Google. 

- Why is the EU trying to meddle with Ireland’s tax structure?
For political reasons.
The EU system of high taxes funds a huge selection of benefits as well as generous pensions & month long + vacations. But the EU economically is under tremendous strain. 
Result; the plans to target US companies for much higher taxes (such as by France).

- Why is Ireland resisting the EU? To avoid the eventual elimination of all tax advantages in Ireland which would lead to a mass exodus of multinational corporations from the country & an economic depression in Ireland. 
The Wikipedia article explains;

”...in § Understanding Irish decision, US–controlled multinationals are 25 of Ireland's top 50 companies; pay over 80% of all Irish corporate taxes (circa €8 billion per annum); directly employ 25 per cent of the Irish labour force (and indirectly pay half of all Irish salary taxes); and are 57 per cent of all non-farm OECD value-add in the Irish economy. In June 2018, the American–Ireland Chamber of Commerce estimated the value of US investment in Ireland was €334 billion, exceeding Irish GDP (€291 billion in 2016)... The cost of US multinationals abandoning Ireland as a US corporate–tax haven, would greatly exceed the EU's €13 billion "windfall".”