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Quote: Originally Posted by BobVB Ha! Funny a TV Show on the web. Cute. What does that have to do with real television networks like CNBC, the network under discussion on the segment itself? And explaining how to do it and stating that you…
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Quote: Originally Posted by BobVB So many Cramer defenders who obviously don't watch The Daily Show regularly. This all started out when the CNBC talking head called people who had gotten into bad mortgages 'losers' and the first TDS piece was a…
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Quote: Originally Posted by vinea You mean the blow off CYA comment that it's "blatantly illegal"? Or "if I were one of these guys"? He was one of these guys Well, the video has been taken down now, so I'm going to have to go on memory. …
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Quote: Originally Posted by irobot2004 Well I watched the first ~6 mins of it, some of it multiple times, and I have to say it doesn't really help. If he was trying to clearly convey the sense that he had done nothing illegal, it did not come acr…
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Quote: Originally Posted by LuisDias I honestly don't understand the kind of people that continue to defend Cramer. I've read all that Belzeboob (sorry if I misspelt) has said, but to no avail. His reasoning is all sound when he states that Crame…
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Quote: Originally Posted by irobot2004 I don't know Cramer or what he's done, but my impression from this thread is that he was in the hedge fund business for some time, and reasonably successful at it. Also, again just from skimming this thread,…
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Quote: Originally Posted by user_23 I actually decided to watch the video _from the beginning_ At 0:25 one gets to hear Cramer himself say (beginning at 0:25) "A lot of times when I was short at my hedge fund...create a level of activity which…
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Quote: Originally Posted by GMHut Ok, beelzebub. Here it is. Despite how you spin it, it looks for all the world like Cramer admitted to engaging in shady sh!t by his own account. I'll be honest, it's starting to sound like you might have engaged…
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Sorry, I edited your post down because my posts are getting too big, so I'm trying to shorten things up. Quote: Originally Posted by rtdunham First of all, beelzebob, i don't think we're as far apart in our views as some might guess. I hope…
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Quote: Originally Posted by rtdunham let me try this: the words in italics are substituted for words regarding stock manipulation, in the text quoted by AI: "In the clip filmed for The Street, Cramer notes that this practice of "robbing visit…
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Quote: Originally Posted by ttupper While some of the comments here are focused on actual illegal activity and whether or not it occurred, I think that really misses the point. Cramer came off as essentially saying this: "The great thing about t…
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Quote: Originally Posted by GMHut beelzebub, It seems to me that you are picking and choosing. You're confusing me with Jon Stewart. Quote: It seems like someone you like (Cramer) got called out for his actions and you don't like it. S…
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Quote: Originally Posted by rtdunham I spent the first half of my life as a conscientious journalist, the second half as a (also conscientious) publisher. I try to consume the news critically, whether it's in print or broadcast or those internet…
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Just in case any one needs to see some confirmation that Jim Cramer didn't make the trades he is discussing in that video, and that he hadn't been trading for several years at that point (or if you just want to see an interesting (albeit soft) discu…
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Quote: Originally Posted by yvo84 I understand that you obviously like Cramer, but even Stewart said it was "unfortunate" that Cramer had to become the face of this. But it was Stewart that chose to make Cramer the face of this. There were p…
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Quote: Originally Posted by yvo84 What exactly is your message? That Cramer didn't and never has manipulated the media and his viewers for self profit (or perhaps for the people paying him out)? No, just that you have no evidence of that he di…
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Quote: Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer You're missing a lot. The complete interview [The Street.com Interview] was about how Hedge Funds work. Cramer admitted through the ignorance of the SEC and the loose language of the law it was deemed legal…
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Quote: Originally Posted by yvo84 Not the brightest tool in the shed, are we "beelzebob". Ahh, the ad hominem attack - can't kill the message, so kill the messenger.
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Quote: Originally Posted by hillstones According to the article, Cramer admitted to making up false claims in order to manipulate the stock. When he admits that he intentionally did it, and said it was easy to do, that is illegal. If you don't …
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Quote: Originally Posted by 1984 I see you just joined today. Are you Jim Cramer? Cramer himself floated a false story immediately after the iPhone's launch that Apple's wireless partner Cingular (later renamed as AT&T) would provide a ye…