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I think the cylinder R2D2 Mac Pro is a wonderful machine - it is only being let down by Apple itself not upgrading it, nor offering upgrades (faster video cards etc). That is not a design fault - but Apple's own fault.

For those Pro users who criticise it for not being more expandable ... Apple's announcement that they were releasing the iMac Pro is even more of an insult ... because the iMac Pro is less expandable ... and when Apple started claiming there was a thermal sandwich on the cylinder Mac Pro --- well the iMac Pro is dramatically worse. 
Given all the complaints from Apple's most loyal fans, Apple replied in 2017: 'Don't worry folks - the new Mac Pro is coming.'
And now it is not (well, not this year) ... which basically means that:

a) Apple actually HAD dropped the Mac Pro in 2017
b) After the iMac Pro then met with laughter and ridicule as a 'pro' machine ... they said: "Don't worry we have the new Mac Pro coming"
c) But they were lying - and just buying time. 

Basically, as others have said, Tim Cook doesn't understand the Pro market, he doesn't understand the Mac ... all he gets is a flat tablet, moving stuff around with a stylus and different colours for iPhones. No vision. No idea. He should go.

The New Apple chip will need to be not only faster, but tens of times faster for anyone to care. For most users, this will just mean disruption, confusion and yet another Apple hardware/software platform change. Even if it were faster (and don't expect Intel to stand still), one of the reasons Apple has been successful with the Mac in recent years is because of the Intel compatibility, and the ease of transition for Windows users to still run their apps, should they wish to do so. If Apple is throwing away that Intel compatibility, then I think they are also throwing away their growth path into the mass market. None of which sounds sensible to me. I don't want to run iOS apps on my Mac thanks, and I have lived through previous Apple hardware/OS transitions (remember PowerPC!?), and they just involve a lot of work for developers to make programs that already work ... keep on working. 

Never mind staying with Sierra ... I went back to Mavericks (10.9.5) -- none of that flat iOS junk flat interface for me. 100% Real Mac  

Must agree there - Rian Johnson has still phailed to explain how the Empire can track all the ships in a Rebel flotilla through hyperspace ... but cannot even catch up with them (in the same time-frame that Finn can travel across the galaxy, play roulette, go to jail, ride a camel, and get back). The plot is embarrassing. Indeed, there is a petition by Star Wars fans to have Disney strike it from the official Star Wars canon (currently 85,000 votes): https://www.change.org/p/the-walt-disney-company-have-disney-strike-star-wars-episode-viii-from-the-official-canon

macxpress said:

awesomeepicguy said:

As Steve would say, this iMac is "dead on arrival".

Who gives a shit? Steve is dead...he's not running Apple anymore. Its not his company, this is a fucking pointless post. Get the fuck over it. Stop it with this Steve this, Steve that shit!

While he physical embodiment of Steve may be gone, ... his ideas, work, and inspiration live on in the Mac, OS X and Apple ... they are Apple. If you don't understand this, or why people 'create' in the first place, then you understand nothing. Apple is his company.  

[ macxpress, you should also try find more polite ways to express your opinions, such as they are. ]