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jfc1138 said:

mknelson said:

Bricking the phone does seem harsh.

Ultimately my concern is where did the parts come from? If the repair centre isn't Apple authorized the parts can only be second-hand salvage parts, counterfeit, or possibly stolen from the production line.

Think of it as one of those steering wheel locks. Renders the item unusable until security is ensured. 

Oh oh and the only "moron" here is the one insisting the phone is permanentlyt disabled aka "bricked" when it so obviously isn't since Apple has a process for restoring the security elements synchronization after replacement. 

Not the best analogy since the intent is not to protect the phone from theft but rather to protect the contents.  Your analogy does nothing to protect the contents of the vehicle.

A better way to look at it is as if your phone were a house that has 2 doors - a front door and a side door and each door has a lock that takes a unique key.  Both doors provide access to the contents of your house.

Now...if you lose the key to the side door - would it make sense to you to barricade the front door?  LOL!  No.  That's obviously stupid.  The key to the front door remains uncompromised - so you would only need to barricade the side door!  In this analogy, the side door can be represented as the Touch ID fingerprint whereas the front door represents your actual passcode/password.

Now, what would you think of someone in the above situation who decides they should barricade BOTH doors "just to be safe"?

LOL!  If your answer is anything other than a "full-on moron" then you probably ARE that person! 

Obviously it's only necessary to barricade the side door until it's lock can be changed.  If access via the side door is prevented/denied, there is no security breech possible by continuing to allow authorized access through the front door!

Game.   Set.   Match.

I don't have the time or energy to reply to all of you individually - so this comment is directed to all of those who have blindly sided with Apple's approach of bricking the phone in response to this type of "tampering".

First of all - you don't even know for sure whether bricking the phone in these circumstances are what Apple intended to do.  By calling it a "glitch", they are acknowledging that it is in fact NOT working exactly as intended.

As many of the smarter forum members have opined, there are a number of responses that could have been applied in this situation that are less severe YET STILL 100% SECURE!  But since you don't understand how any of this stuff actually works - or what needs to be protected - you blindly over react.  You're the same people that welcome "perceived security" over "real security" and probably think that all of the security measures in place at the airport actually make your flights more secure - even though they've been proven time and time again to be a waste of time and money whose ONLY value is to provide the PERCEPTION of security!

It's people like you - people that welcome extreme over reactions to perceived threats (real or not) that are going to be responsible for giving away ALL of our privacy and freedoms in the not so distant future.

Should Apple protect my data?  Yes!  Absolutely!  Should they do so by bricking my device?  ONLY IF NECESSARY!!!  And in this case - ITS NOT!!!  There are several levels of response/reaction that could be applied here that would protect your data while still allowing you to use your device!  If you lack the intelligence to know what those responses should be - just shut the hell up - or go ahead and demand a solution that protects your data APPROPRIATELY.  Don't pretend you know what the solution is and demand specific things when it's so very obvious you are responding solely out of fear and ignorance and that you don't have a clue what *should* be done.

Rayz2016 said:

markbyrn said:

Really Mr. Cook, a security issue; that's how you defend this buffoonery?  If it was just a security issue, why not just disable the Touch ID functionality instead of the entire phone?!  Get ready for another expensive lawsuit.  

Because it's better to be safer than compromised. How does Apple know that some bright spark won't find a way to re-enable the TouchId and gain access to your data by exploiting an undiscovered vulnerability in iOS?

Unexcusably paranoid without any basis in reality.  By this logic, the device should be bricked anytime the case is opened by anyone other than an authorized repair center - because once it's opened up - who knows what a smart hacker can accomplish?  LOL!  Ridiculous!!!

I'm selling a sticker that you can put on the back of your phone.  The sticker prevents elephant attacks.  All of my friends are using it and none of them have ever been attacked by an elephant so there is proof that it works.  Even if you're skeptical - it's better to be safe than sorry - right?  They're $100 each - but they're guaranteed for life.  If you ever get killed in an elephant attack while carrying the sticker, we'll refund twice the amount you paid for the sticker!  How many can I put you down for?

Disgusting.  Irrelevant to the story, but I'd be interested in hearing how this NPE came to hold these patents, how much they paid to acquire them and how much the original inventor of the technology actually earned from his invention.

tralalalalalala said:

tenly said:

But it shouldn't.  These organizations exist and it's a map products job to help you find and get to the place you need to go.  It's ridiculous for a maps product to apply filters or censorship tied to the author or owners morals, values or ethics.

People don't use "maps" to research their options for making important life choices - they use search engines like Google and Bing.  Only after they've done their research and made their decision will they turn to maps to help them get to the place at which they already have an appointment.

Hahahah, hahahahah, hahahahahahahhahaha.

Okay: "Hey Siri, please help me shoot up a school."

According to tenly: "These are the nearest gun shops."

According to ethical humans: "Maybe you should check out these anti-depression hotlines first."


/wipes tears. I love libertarians. Yes, please, let's not let ethical thought creep into our utopia.

Edit: The ultimate irony of your post is that Apple was required to introduce filters for this search because planned parenthood wasn't advertising that they help with abortions enough to get them on the standard search result. lol! Oh the irony. Thanks for the laugh.