koop

As a Nexus 6P owner I'd use imessage over WhatsApp the minute it its released. Lots of friends use iPhones.

I was laughing so hard when this happened and wondered if DED would make an article. Was not disappointed. 

Honestly they'd be better served with iPad Pros.

Googles making a killing on iOS. Make a competing product and then monetize the competitors platform. Win win.

None of this matters. Samsung's benchmarks were considered amazing in 2015 and that is one of the worst performing phones I've ever owned. The iPhone 5c is a better  experience. The Nexus 6P is bottom of the benchmarks but its the fastest and most fluid Android phone I've ever used.

The Android side is so full of disastrous UI tweaks by vendors that benchmarking is such a frivolous thing. Apple doesn't even need a faster CPU to deliver superior performance to almost any Android phone. I'm actually certain at this point the iOS animations are probably the bottleneck and has been for a processor generation or two.

michael scrip said:

koop said:

It's clear past decisions have allowed Apple to maximize their revenue and profits. They are a highly efficient company that makes a very large amount of money in the market. 

As an investor, i'd probably be less fixated on that however. The current stock price already reflects these realities, and has already rewarded those who had the foresight to invest years ago. What the stock price will respond to is if Apple is shepherding new product categories, and diversifying for long term growth. Nobody is saying the iPhone is dying tomorrow, but there's a ceiling and growth will come from other opportunities. It's easy to say how Apple has captured the smartwatch market or the tablet market, but it's misleading because relative to the success of the iPhone, those are small potatoes to Apple itself, and those markets are simply too small or contracting in the the case of the tablet. Apple can dominate small markets all day if they want, but that's not going to make investors feel better. I also don't think a car is the answer but that's another argument for another time. I'd look at what Facebook did with Oculus, I think that has the potential to be a massive market, and Apple isn't particularly interested. Just a thought. 

It's fun to crap on Samsung when trying to shrug off investment worries, but the stock market would be a much simpler place if it were just "your numbers vs my numbers" game between competitors. Apple still hasn't convinced the market their company is worth more than it is right now, and I agree.

Since you're an investor... maybe you can answer this:

If you could pull all your money out of Apple... who would you put it in instead?

Apple makes a lot of money by selling tons of high-margin products.  But it apparently it doesn't move their stock price up.

So who would move the stock price up?

I would not pull money out of Apple, only pointing to realities of those feel baffled about the current profitability not being conducive to a higher stock price. The stock price is already reflected with current numbers, whether people will accept that or not is another story. I think Tim Cook is an excellent CEO, and I believe the future is bright with him at the helm. I believe silicon valley is sort of a lull period, waiting for certain technologies to mature enough to launch a new wave of products, and the anxiety of this is weighing heavily on Apple's stock, but ultimately it will come. When it comes to investments with any major established company, you play the long game and don't get rattled in the moment. I just don't subscribe to the self destructing posters who are having a mini panic attack, though I suspect they may have fell into some fantasy of getting rich over the course of a short period of time, and DED's articles actually serve to over inflated their expectations of the short term stock price which does nobody any good.

Most major tech companies are good investments for the long term. Google has their gears churning and their strategy is slowly coming together. Facebook has an interesting investment in Oculus Rift VR that I think may turn the entertainment industry on its head (no pun intended). Because you invest in Apple doesn't mean you don't invest in Google etc. In fact they both feed off each other more than they damage each other. Oil companies donate to both Democrats and Republicans alike after all, it's simply a better investment to play both sides.

I would never take stock advice from someone on a message board however. So don't listen to me and do your own research.