avon b7

A quick incision on Brexit as I know the subject inside out.

The people were fed lies by the leave campaign and the leave campaign used dubious methods to scrape a victory out of everything.

The whole referendum was a shambles from beginning to end. Right from the act of parliament that governed it through to the voter limitations.

Sixteen and seventeen year olds were denied a say. These are the people with a lot to lose from Brexit. They were allowed to vote in the Scottish independence referendum. Many expats were denied a say and (of those) who live within the EU (with arguably more to lose than anyone alse) it would have been enough to secure a remain victory.

When Theresa May speaks of the will of the people she is much mistaken because so many were not allowed to participate.

Another aspect is that the referendum was advisory (not binding) which has brought its own problems and no provision was made for a virtual split decision. Such wholesale upheaval should have been provided for in a 60/40 spread for example.

With poor acts of parliament surrounding the vote and so many people (with funding) prepared to lie at every turn on the campaign trail it wasn't hard to fill the heads of certain groups of people with anti EU sentiment. People who have reaped the rewards of forming part of the EU for decades and not even been aware of it. Something which led some very poor areas which had been completely regenerated using EU money to vote Brexit!

Ignorance is bliss but with 'comfort' comes laziness and the 'vote leave campaigners' had a field day with the ignorant people of Britain.

My own family, with the sole exception of my brother swallowed the lies right up to the vote. They all very much regret their decision and are very bitter towards anyone who represented the leave campaign.

Seeing what has happened since and what we know about the leave campaign itself I very much doubt Leave would win a second referendum. If EU expats and 16/17 year olds are given a vote, I'm sure Remain would earn itself a healthy winning margin.

I just wonder if Trump voters will experience a similar turnaround when it come to voting next year.

Perhaps off topic but I just stumbled across this. I never went into the documents of the original case but if this report is factually accurate, it is a real eye opener:

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/05/31/chinese-intellectual-property-theft-the-indictment-of-huawei-is-an-embarrassment/

hammeroftruth said:

rob53 said:

Has anyone actually found anything in Huawei hardware? Intel has its own issues (ZombieLoad) so what exactly has anyone discovered in Huawei computer chips? Is the administration simply targeting a Chinese company to protect US companies?

This:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/30/18523701/huawei-vodafone-italy-security-backdoors-vulnerabilities-routers-core-network-wide-area-local


It has caused quite the controversy in the UK and in Italy. 

Didn't you follow the story?

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/04/30/huawei_enterprise_router_backdoor_is_telnet/

StrangeDays said:

avon b7 said:

StrangeDays said:

Bahaha — so much for the argument on another story that Apple “lost” the secure chat platform space, because WhatsApp is more popular and cross-platform than iMessage. Oops. So much winning when you put your privacy into Facecrook’s hands, lol.

Did you read the article?

I did. Did you? Yes, the patches have been put in place. But the security exposure was there. So much for the sentiment that "Apple lost this space" on the other discussion, where a couple chaps were touting encryption and what not on WA. What good is all that if it's still going to act as a trojan horse? 

Apple is still winning the space with iMessage, IMO. Now get to work on those goalposts!

That other thread was on IM, not VoIP. No patches were required for the IM element because the problem was not IM related!

In any case, the 'Apple lost it' hasn't changed. The default IM app for 80% of the world's smartphone users is not Messages.

And once again, from the article:

"Apple has in the past attempted to patchflaws in iOS and macOS leveraged by Pegasus, but NSO continues to uncover and exploit zero-day vulnerabilities in iOS to keep its product functional."

clarker99 said:

avon b7 said:

clarker99 said:

avon b7 said:

clarker99 said:

As per usual folks pop up and cleary dont get that Apple doesnt need a ‘new’ mid-range device every year. Apple maintains higher prices at the premium end to prop up its amazing gray market. People fundamentally do not understand Apple’s pricing strategy. It is all about maintaining brand/price integrity. Apple’s trade in program is also about controlling the gray market prices. If Apple wants to give $250 for an iPhone 6s trade-in it sets a floor for 2nd hand iPhone value. Why sell it for less if Apple will give $250. 

Meanwhile, the iOS install base continues to grow.

We understand.

However, It's not what Apple wants. It's what consumers want. 

The problem:

Three years of stagnant growth. Two consecutive YoY, double digit drops in iPhone shipments. Iterative upgrades. Price increases. Drop off in satisfaction at Apple Retail. Fierce competition.

The solution?:

Price adjustments
Competitive hardware
Retail improvements
Business model changes

That last point began to shape in 2017. The 'limited period' increased trade-in value from 2018 (a last-minute emergency measure) is still applicable over five months later. For 2019 I expect further changes.

Remove China from the numbers and everything is fine.  But keep up the narrative that Apple doesnt know what its doing ߙ䦬t;br>

If I removed China everything wouldn't be fine. First, the markets would throw a wobbly on Apple, the likes of which you have never seen. Second. That last minute extended and increased trade in value isn't only applicable in China. That tells us the slowdown might have worse been in China but definitely wasn't limited to China.

The narrative that Apple doesn't know what it's doing doesn't exist. Tim Cook went on record as saying they miscalculated.

Apple took the risks but knew them 

sigh. It was largely China. That is well known and Tim acknowledged things got better at the end of the quarter.They are adding users, which really is the neglected narrative. Which means  people are buying iPhones.  Apple doesnt care if they are new models, gray market or hand me down otherwise they would sell cheaper ‘new’ phones. People just dont get it.  

Apple is not going to lower their prices in USA or other wealthier countries. Price is not the problem. If it was, Apple would have been dead years ago.

What do you think 'things got better' means?

That things are back to normal? No. Even while 'getting better' things were still bad.

That's why Apple's special, time limited, steep trade in offers are still in place and still on Apple's front page.