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  • Global chaos erupts as Windows security update goes bad

    Lettuce said:
    avon b7 said:
    My scheduled video conference with HP has hit the skids. I was told at 8am this morning that IT support were working on the problem but I doubt they'll apply the machine-by-machine workaround offered by Crowdstrike which requires booting into Safe Mode and deleting a file.

    It's touch and go for the meeting which is scheduled to start in 30 minutes. 

    It is more likely they'll wait for the fix from Crowdstrike to flush through the systems. 

    Global automated updates should be rolled out in phases to catch these glitches before they become wildfires. 

    I see some airlines still have boarding cards that can be handwritten for the lucky ones who have been able to get off the ground.

    EDIT: meeting postponed.
    The corrected update has already been rolled out. If the computer installed the wrong one it stopped working and the only way to fix it is to manually intervene. 
    Yes. The issue was detected and corrected but this is what the CEO of Crowdstrike has said:


    "Kurtz said “it could be some time for some systems” to return to normal, stressing that they would not “just automatically recover”." 

    IT support at large corporations is being overwhelmed and while manual intervention would have allowed my meeting to go ahead, IT procedures don't allow for it. We couldn't switch to a tablet solution either because everything needs to be approved beforehand. Everything has to be done by the book. 

    I have another video conference with a Japanese multinational which is still planned to go ahead later today. Fingers crossed. 


    dewmeAlex1N
  • Global chaos erupts as Windows security update goes bad

    Pema said:
    So, what else is new? Or News? MS DOS, MS Windows, always the achilles heel of the tech world. But because Mr Gates forced the both down pc makers throats then it spread like a virus. For those who don't recall, you could build a PC, no quality control there. Get a motherboard, a breadbox, slap a display on top call it Joe's PC and you are in business. But, and this is the big but, hardware alone is no good without the software. So Mr Gates tells the pc makers, ok, folks you want to put MS DOS on there, fine there is a licensing fee per PC. And that trend continued with Windows. 
    Apple was different the hardware and software came bundled together so they worked seamlessly. 
    There was one time in Apple's history where they almost became extinct and that when Mr Pepsi Cola - some idiot that Steve Jobs hired from the soft drink company to manage the company - licensed the Apple OS and a builder in Texas I believe put together the hardware and then slapped on the Apple OS. That relationship lasted as long as a one-night stand. 
    Long story short, Mr Pepsi Cola forced Steve Jobs out, Jobs created Next on top of Unix. Apple floundered, MS tipped $150 million into Apple, Steve came back resurrected the company on top of the Unix Shell with the Mac interface. And from the Bondi Blue Mac and the iPod and as they say the rest is history. Apple is, IMO, due to become a $5 Trillion company. 
    Microsoft's O/S was some rubbish that Ms Gates purloined from a guy in Seattle. It has always been sheit. Full of security holes, bugs you name it. MS ought to have dumped the whole kit and caboodle, and become what they have proven to be good at, Cloud. My Nutella's specialty. Except good old Windows has opened up a breach into the cloud and scuttled the works. 
    I am no big fan of Android but it is heads and shoulders above Windows. 
    Perhaps MS needs to team up with Google and license Android to run their PCs and Azure to manage the Cloud. 
    Otherwise there will be days like these. 
     
    To be fair, Classic Mac OS was never even an option for mission critical systems and lack of long term support from Apple was another issue, as was corporate support for its systems. 

    In the mid nineties I was pushing to get Apple into education systems here (an area of 7 million people) but any deployment would hinge on local language support which Apple wasn't interested in providing. 

    OSX brought POSIX compliance but by then it was impossible to compete with an entrenched Windows ecosystem and the illegal practices of Microsoft to lock customers into their systems. 

    One potentially huge issue for Apple's rumoured car adventure was committment and long term software support. Apple has never been into either. 



    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Global chaos erupts as Windows security update goes bad

    AppleZulu said:
    So this is where we see letting third-party vendors have that level of access to the OS in order to provide security becomes a vulnerability in itself. 
    These issues can affect first party vendors in exactly the same way. 

    If your systems permeate the fabric of the internet (in the deployment sense), the scope for trouble is there but everyone (first or third party) should have resilience designed into their systems. 

    Crowdstrike says this is the result of a botched update as opposed to a security or cyber attack situation but having it propagate so far and so quickly has to be looked at and resolved.

    Any vendor could be hit by botched processes so that includes Apple, Meta, Google, Microsoft, Amazon Huawei etc in the deployment sense and the likes of Cloudfare in an infrastructure sense.

    I suppose using a third party solution might even be favorable in some situations.

    Luckily, these situations don't usually hit the headlines very often but some might ask 'how much of that is literally down to 'luck' itself?


    dewmeAlex1NAnilu_777
  • Global chaos erupts as Windows security update goes bad

    My scheduled video conference with HP has hit the skids. I was told at 8am this morning that IT support were working on the problem but I doubt they'll apply the machine-by-machine workaround offered by Crowdstrike which requires booting into Safe Mode and deleting a file.

    It's touch and go for the meeting which is scheduled to start in 30 minutes. 

    It is more likely they'll wait for the fix from Crowdstrike to flush through the systems. 

    Global automated updates should be rolled out in phases to catch these glitches before they become wildfires. 

    I see some airlines still have boarding cards that can be handwritten for the lucky ones who have been able to get off the ground.

    EDIT: meeting postponed.
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  • EU hits back at Apple withholding Apple Intelligence from the region

    davidw said:
    xRAHx said:
    xRAHx said:
    indiebug said:
    EU commission head is targeting Apple either because she has clandestinely sided with its competitors or as a means to milk American companies which are far ahead of European counterparts. EU is literally finding ways to squeeze money out of American tech giants. EU s policies are based on protectionism and jealousy towards Big American brands. This is awful and anyone with common sense can understand. Interoperability- nonsense. Next, make iMovie compatible with android. Why does not Microsoft make windows compatible with Mac? Why no android on iPhone.  All nonsensical hogwash 

    The EU commission requires owners of market-dominating operating systems not to set their own browsers as the default, but to show users a selection of competing browsers during setup, from which they should choose one as the default.

    The EU commission wants the owners of the market-dominating operating systems not to prevent app developers from advertising the sale of licenses in their own apps. 

    European iOS and iPadOS users shall become free to choose who they want to buy apps and content from. Apple shall not stay the monopoly reseller of apps for iOS and iPadOS in the EU. The EU does not want Apple to be able to continue to prevent certain apps from being available on iOS and iPadOS. European Users of iOS and iPadOS shall become able to freely develop, distribute, install, sell and buy apps for iOS and iPadOS.

    That is more freedom for European users, that is more freedom for developers all over the world who want to sell apps for iOS and iPadOS in the EU, that is less freedom for Apple in the EU.

    The EU commission demands that the owners of the market-dominating operating systems do not use the APIs of the operating systems exclusively for themselves, but that the owners of these operating systems allow all app developers to use the APIs of the operating systems so that there are more better applications that run on all operating systems.

    The EU commission does not require Apple to develop apps for other operating systems.

    First point: I don't think anyone has much of an issue with this. The EU does also require Apple to allow browsers to use their own engine.

    Second: Not sure why the EU thinks this is important. Advertising licenses inside an app is not typical for any platform. Smartphone users also have access to all kinds of information outside of apps and the App Store on the same device...internet, social media, email, text messages, direct messages etc. Basically, you have to pretend that smartphone users aren't aware that they can get information about developers and their products/services anywhere other than inside apps or the App Store in order to think this is important.

    Third: Apple monopolizes app distribution because iOS/iPadOS and iPhone/iPad hardware are their own IP. That formula has been around for decades and was never previously considered to be anti-competitive since there is a high degree of difficulty in achieving success with it commercially. Think of all the various video game consoles that have either flopped or been unable to maintain viability in the long run. Think of Microsoft's attempt at a smartphone. It's not a magic formula for market dominance. Apple does have limits for what it allows to be sold in the App Store but that is true of any store...digital or brick/mortar. For the most part though, it's really the app developers that choose whether or not to provide their apps on iOS. Example: Microsoft made a big stink about its game streaming app not being allowed on the App Store but they had never previously ported 1st party games to the App Store either. They preferred to limit their own gaming apps to Windows/Xbox.

    Fourth: Requiring access to APIs across the board is kind of an odd stance since not every API can be linked to market competition. I can see how it makes sense for something like NFC/Wallet or the browser engine aspect, i.e., targeted situations. This seems like a big overreach on the part of the EU similar to the third point above.  
    Great points. 

    No one goes to target or wal mart to find information about what else is available from a handbag maker - or if there are any vendor-specific sales better than what’s at that brick and mortar store. 

    They use the internet, advertising in tv, radio, direct mail, etc. 

    when you go to a Mercedes dealership, they don’t have to post up signs telling you that a certain bmw can be had cheaper for similar horsepower, etc. 

    in the smartphone, you have the whole internet at your disposal. People know what search engines and websites are. Sheesh. It’s not kindergarten where you don’t know something unless it’s in front of you at all times. 

    It’s really quite embarrassing that the eu is forcing a tech company to divert customers to vendors own separate stores -inside their own store. 

    It’s a solution looking for a problem and has indeed become the problem. 

    Brick and mortar stores have digital storefronts/apps. To be fair, that’s a digital market and would need to force them to have a sign next to the Kilauea bananas item in the apps that directed them to Klause’s stall down the street where he sells cheaper because of less overhead. It’s the height of stupidity. 
    In the EU, apart from the youngest children, almost 100 percent of citizens use a smartphone. No more than 30 percent of EU citizens use games consoles.

    Smartphones are (vitally) important. Game consoles are not important.

    Smartphones are now regulated in the EU. Games consoles may be regulated later.

    There are two operating systems for smartphones: Android and iOS. Alphabet/Google and Apple have a duopoly here.

    Google and Apple have agreed that the Google search engine will be the default setting on all smartphones. They made it obvious that they want to manipulate the owners of smartphones in order so squeeze money out of them.

    A smartphone is a computer that is connected to the Internet and GPS and can be used to make phone calls, take photos, navigate, chat, read and listen.

    Anyone who has bought a computer for 1000+ dollars/euros in the EU shall now be able to decide freely in the EU from whom they buy software for this computer.

    The EU has changed the law exactly for this. It doesn't matter what was allowed before. Now it's different. There is a new law.

    The EU wants freedom for EU citizens who own computers called smartphones. The owners of the computers shall decide where they buy software. Not Google. Not Apple.

    Apple doesn't want that. A minority of Apple users in the EU don't want that either, because they are afraid. The majority of citizens in the EU, however, want to be free to decide from whom they can buy software for their computers that they have already paid for.

    The EU wants this rule to apply to both Android and Apple. That's just how it works. This is not unusual in the EU.

    You are living in a fantasy world of wishful thinking. Android has always allowed third party app stores and side loading. So where are all the app stores in Android that Android mobile phone users are flocking to, to buy their apps from?  Why do over 80% of Android users only use the Google Play Store to get their apps? Why is Google Play Store still a monopoly on Android? Why don't the likes of Starbucks, Spotify, Netflix, banks, retailers, CC, stock traders, Whatsapp, Facebook, online stores, etc., open their own app stores to distribute their free apps on Android or have their customers side load or have it available in other app stores? So all Android customers can choose where or how to install their apps?  Why haven't Google been forced to lower their commission due to competition from other apps stores and sideloading? You think it's going to be different with iOS?

    The bottom line is that over 90% of apps on both platforms app stores are free. There is no way that any other app store can afford to offer as many free apps. But free apps is what draws the "foot traffic" to the Apple App Store and Google Play Store. So why should any of the  developers that sells apps, want to offer them in other apps stores that won't even have nearly the "foot traffic" as the Apple App Store and Google Play Store? And why should any of the developers of free apps, want to offer their free apps in any other app stores that few Android users will visit 9much less trust) or have their customer sideload it?

    This isn't about giving the consumers more choice. With Android, consumers already have those choices and have already chosen that they want to get their apps from the Google Play Store, whenever possible and only get it from elsewhere when forced to. This is about giving developers more choice because they want to avoid paying any commission for the commercial use of IP that they don't own or their apps do not pass the policies of the Google Play Store or Apple App Store. Policies that are put in place to protect the users that installs the app on to their devices. 

    Can EU iOS users look forward to having more choices of app stores and being able to choose what ever app they want to install on their iDevice in the next few years, like from these app stores?




    This isn't about making the EU forcing both Android and Apple to obey the rules. This is about forcing Apple to be more like Android and thus removing the choice for EU consumers to use a mobile OS that is safer, more secure and with better privacy protection. 

    When including all OS's, Windows is the most malware infected. Android is a close second. OSX (MacOS) is a distance third or fifth. With iOS having multiple times less malware that even OSX. And guess which of these are on devices that are the least like a desktop computer, that you think smartphones should be like?

    If the EU was concern about the consumers, they would force Android to be more like iOS, not the other way around. But alas, the EU is more concern about the developers. Funny how the EU enforces one of the strictest (the probably the best) consumer data privacy protection regulations in the World and yet willing to look the other way when it comes to a mobile OS that has proven over time to be more private and secure than the mobile OS they are forcing it to be like.


    BTW- and the majority of citizens in the EU that wants to be free to decide from whom they can buy software for their computers that they have already paid for, can do this by buying an Android phone. And the fact that more than 75% of the EU citizens are using an Android phone proves that Apple in not forcing anyone to use iPhones. And if the majority of EU iPhone users also wants this, why don't they switch to an Android phone? Why did they buy an iPhone to begin with, if that's what they wanted? iOS have been the same for over 10 years. What apps are on an iPhone, that can't be found (or least similar ones) on an Android phone?
    It is absolutely about choice and absolutely about competition.

    "This isn't about giving the consumers more choice. With Android, consumers already have those choices and have already chosen that they want to get their apps from the Google Play Store, whenever possible and only get it from elsewhere when forced to. This is about giving developers more choice because they want to avoid paying any commission for the commercial use of IP that they don't own or their apps do not pass the policies of the Google Play Store or Apple App Store. Policies that are put in place to protect the users that installs the app on to their devices."

    In a digital age where an established 'duopoly' is stifling competition and limiting choice, you are swimming very much against the current with any attempt to say users have 'choice' because Android offers some of the basics that the DMA requires. We are seeing investigations worldwide. That not coincidence. There is a very real problem to deal with and the DSA/DMA is just a first effort. 

    It isn't about IP. It's about leveling the playing field. 

    It would be nice if Apple actually put a 'price' on its IP and let developers actually see if its worthwhile paying for it instead of wrapping it all up to the point where competition is lost in the smoke. 

    Apple had its cake and ate most of it for too many years. The EU is working for a fairer situation for all. As are authorities in many other regions. 


     

    sphericgatorguy