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  • Apple iPhone XS awarded smartphone camera of the year, Google Pixel 3 runner-up

    JWSC said:
    But, but, but ...   We were told that the Pixel 3 XL was superior ...
    Here is the snippet:

    "The iPhone XS faced fierce competition from the Google Pixel 3 this year, and from a pure still image quality standpoint the Pixel 3 wins hands down"

    chasmmuthuk_vanalingam
  • Apple shifting marketing staff, pushing trade-ins to expand sales of 2018 iPhones

    avon b7 said:
    So this is the front page of Apple’s website right now. I can’t rememner the last time they featured a price promotion at the very top of their front page.

    Also, 9to5Mac noticed Apple changed the marketing copy from a one line marketing slogan to a list of specific features:

    I don’t usually put much faith in supply chain rumors considering how often they’re wrong but something feels different this year that leads me to believe sales might not be what Apple execs were expecting. I mean if these devices were selling really well why would Apple be pushing trade-in deals (and even increasing the trade-in value by $100)? Why would they be OK with carriers like Sprint and TMobile offering the XR for free with signup? Those are not things you do for products that are selling well.
    None of these mean that Apple is panicked, those are routine sales tasks and nothing is unusual. If you’re a business your reason of being is sales. A business without sales is not “business”, it is just a hobby. Trade-ins are good, especially for some international price-sensitive markets suffering from exchange rates. We all know that traded-in iPhones are not trash, they preserve their resale value, with the addition of refurb and backed by a new warranty those may go well to price-sensitive markets. Do not underestimate carrier subsidies, a carrier is a sales channel and sales channels are everything in a business of Apple’s scale. Everything is fine and happens as predicted...
    You skirted his point somewhat. Specifically, he mentioned that he couldn't remember the last time he saw a price splash on Apple's front page. Also that the trade in offers had improved. 

    Recent changes such as these and right in the middle of the Christmas ramp up are curious to say the least.

    You are right that it doesn't mean Apple is panicked but he never said that in the first place. The actions are reactions to something. The question is what. I doubt it is simply a case of Christmas spirit.

    Then there are many more aspects of international trade to speculate about, if this is what we want to do: Trump and Xi are about to come to an agreement, they suspended the trade war for 90 days, the markets may have entered into a “hold on” mode... And Apple’s current task is to sell as much as it can, sales never wait, you sell “now” or never... Again, nothing is unusual, exceptional tactics during exceptional trends, that’s it...
    That is fine but those exceptional tactics are exactly what make this unusual.

    In the preparation for the 2018 release cycle and pricing, currency issues were already evident. As was the turbulence in US/China relations and it's difficult to imagine that Cook and Trump didn't speak about these issues during their private meetings. On those fronts, very little has actually changed recently so Apple rolled out their plans knowing full well the headwinds. It's only now that potentially unusual things are happening.

    From my side of the pond Apple's home page hasn't changed and their is no clear mention of any trade in programme.

    The only thing that did surprise me was seeing iPhone ads on YouTube as I'd never seen one before. 
    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Why the end of unit sales reporting of Macs, iPhone, and iPad isn't bad news for Apple

    I’m not concerned about the stock price. Yes, I get an ulcer every time it goes for a dive as my life savings is essentially riding on Apple, but anyone who knows anything at all understands that AAPL is the most manipulated stock in the history of stocks. Irrational drops are just part of the ride. When I first bought AAPL in 2001, it almost immediately dropped 40%. Had I not been young and poor, I would have bought more. Instead I flew around the room in a panic. Fortunately I was patient enough to hang in there. I only wish I had as much as some of the rest of you on this forum. Apple is certainly in fine shape for many, many years to come. I remember when we had supposedly reached “Peak Apple” when the iPod had saturated the market and the iPhone had yet to be revealed to the world. Stock market analysts are dumbasses. 

    That said, I wouldn’t mind seeing less of Humanitarian Tim Cook and more of Tech Innovator Tim Cook. It chaps my hide that Apple has essentially ceded the smart home hardware market to Amazon (freaking Amazon!!!) and to a lesser extent Google, when there were whispers of Apple getting into home automation YEARS before Alexa was even wisp of an idea.

    Apple is spending BILLIONS in R&D and it certainly doesn’t cost that much to develop bezel-less iPads and $130 styli. When do we get to see the next great product line come out of Apple’s secret labs? Every time Tim & Co. drop a line in an interview about exciting new things in the works, I certainly never think they’re talking about Apple Watches with curved-corner displays.

    Apple simply needs to move with more urgency. The Chinese (thanks to free software development by our friends at Google) will continue to copy every innovation Apple comes up with and sell those innovations at bottom-dollar (née, bottom-yuan) to infinity and beyond. Apple can only stay ahead by expanding its product lines and strengthening its ecosystem (see: home automation again).

    And when will we finally see Apple take the gloves off and start marketing the message about Google’s dystopian business model? Most consumers are ignorant of the fact that Google (through its Asian knockoff partners) sells cheap hardware only to suck up personal data to sell to advertisers, killing American companies and innovation in the process. Apple is basically the last remaining American mobile device maker, thanks to Google, who’ll sell you out to the Chinese or Koreans without a single ounce of remorse. 
    Google with Android might actually be doing a service to Apple by copying the user experience as closely as it has over these last ten years.  Because android phones adapt the market to an iPhone-like experience.  As Tim says, Android is training ground for iOS.  As the middle class around the world expands, more and more people who aspire to own an iPhone can actually afford one.  
    Middle class outside the western world has less money. Chinese middle class families earn 10k to 40k per year. Not enough at todays iPhone prices. 
    I will add that Huawei launched the Mate 20 Pro in India two days ago with pricing starting cheaper than the iPhone XR in India. Clearly, the premium market in India is seeing some price disruption of late.  
    muthuk_vanalingam
  • High iPhone XR sales in China not enough to stop iPhone production estimate cuts

    The single day in China did show us like Apple destroyed huawei. All the companies like counterpoint did report the chart of smartphones top seller: not an huawei in the first ten position of most sold model of smartphones. So what this analyst taking about ? 
    We shouldn't be making assumptions on success based off of just one day. As far as Huawei being 'destroyed' there is no real evidence of that at all.

    When I last checked there was only ONE site saying Apple was the top seller on Alibaba's Single's day. That site, CNBC, provided No links to ANY information and Alibaba itself hadn't provided any either. Has that changed? Other sites, AI included, simply echoed that CNBC piece.

    Your assumption that Apple 'destroyed' Huawei has no truth in it all.

    We don't even know what CNBC was referencing. Was it revenue or units? We don't know how many units were made available for discounting by the manufacturers or retailers. We don't even know the difference between the top three manufacturers.

    As for models, you are barking up the wrong tree. Huawei has consistently topped Apple in China but never had a model in the top spots.

    How is that possible? Well, Apple released exactly three phones this year and probably won't release any more until very late next year. Huawei has released over thirty. That's why 'model sales' are completely and utterly irrelevant in a wider context. Tally them up though and you get a better idea of the picture.

    That is without taking into account where the actual 'data' comes from in the first place! But seeing how Apple itself often references places like IDC, I suppose we can use that information in a general sense as long as common sense prevails.
    muthuk_vanalingam
  • US iPhones and iPads might soon access EU's Galileo satellite navigation system thanks to ...

    seanj said:
    Wonderful news. Just as those of us in the UK will probably lose access to Galileo due to BREXIT even though we paid a lot of the costs.
    More Remoaner nonsense.

    Anybody equipped with a receiver in any country will be able to access Galileo - assuming the EU can find replacement ground stations to replace the U.K. controlled ones.
    The U.K. military may lose access to the encrypted military signals; but that’s assuming they work as the encryption tech is British and an export ban has been threatened.
    Theres also the small matter of the hugely over budget Galileo system suffering clock failures aboard the satellites; only the Swiss built clocks though... the U.K. built clocks are fine.
    FWIW, I'm a staunch remainer

    Nice roundup of Galileo and Brexit here:

    http://insidegnss.com/brexit-and-galileo-plenty-of-rumblings-but-wheres-the-beef/
    spheric