avon b7

bradford_kirby said:

MisterKit said:

Looking forward to see how it runs on mini 2. Any boost in performance will be welcome.

For Christ sake go get an iPad that isn’t 7 years old

He can't. He bought the Mini for a reason that probably had a lot to do with form factor. Even the Mini 4 isn't a big enough upgrade over the 2. Since then, Zippo.

If Apple released a new Mini I would be all over it. Even better a Mini with no bezels. Until then. No buy.

nunzy said:

Everybody loves the notch.

Not everybody. There were lots of people right here on AI, iPhone users,  that said they didn't like it.

Then there are many more Samsung users that haven't been clamouring for one in all this time and Samsung has no current phone with a notch.

I expect to see the notch contents move up into a slightly raised hump that elegantly blends into the frame.

Some Android phones have already done away with the front facing selfie camera and put a mini oled screen on the rear for composition of selfies using the rear camera(s).

Soli said:

avon b7 said:

Android P simply accommodates the cutout which appeared on Android phones first.

No it didn't. Android P wasn't even announced until March of this year. That's along after the iPhone X was on the market.

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_P

I'm not talking about the iPhone X, simply replying to the point about Android P in another post.

Android P provides official support for the cutout. 

The iPhone X and its particular notch is irrelevant in my reply.

Before Android P, some handsetmakers with notches were implementing (and still are of course) their own modifications on their UIs.

Sometimes, features from a handset maker are integrated into the core Android release at a later date.

I believe Huawei's fingerprint scanner gestures are one such example.

nunzy said:

New Zealand is being unfair to Apple. If anybody knows how to take care of its customers, it is Apple.

New Zealand is not being unfair to Apple. These laws apply to all companies. Flouting them (through ignorance or deliberately) will lead to this kind of action.

Apple has a long history of trying to flout EU consumer law with its selling practices of AppleCare for mobile devices. It is a repeat offender, and AFAIK, never challenges consumer protection demands because it has known from the outset that, in the training phase of store employees and the wording of online marketing, it was misleading purchasers. I think it has had its house in order for a couple of years now although they tried to sell me AppleCare when I bought the iPhone 6 using the same tactics that consumer groups were complaining about.

When I pointed out that the two year coverage the guy was trying to 'sell' me was already included in my statutory consumer rights, he gave a wry smile and conceded I was right but said he had the obligation to offer it to me anyway.

nunzy said:

Apple would never make something like this. Instead, they are getting a patent to prevent Samsung from doing it. Apple uses the patent system in ways it was never thought of. They are very very clever. That's why they make such high profits.

The idea is nice and think it could work. Parts of the base idea have already been used on phones though.

This is over three years old:

https://www.phonearena.com/news/Manta-7X-details-revealed--massive-battery-absolutely-no-hardware-buttons_id65484

Huawei/Honor are rumoured to have volume rockers replaced by touch sensors in the works: 

https://tech.thaivisa.com/huawei-p20-leaked-new-images-show-resigned-phone-no-physical-buttons/27360/

And the Honor Magic from a couple of years ago also had sensors in the bezels.

I'd like Apple to give it a go too.